Employer threatening to ban e-cigs...

hurfdurf said:
Does drinking a cup of tea really compare in your eyes to the lack of professionalism an e-cig does? As I said in an earlier post

It is disruptive to an office enviroment and incredibly unprofessional looking, I'm amazed you do not have the self awareness to realise this even within your thriving community of e-cig enthusiasts.
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You are making an argument based on personal opinion though. It's completely subjective as to how "unprofessional" vaping looks and not something you can state as fact.

Furthermore there are plenty of things I would consider not looking "professional" but wouldn't suggest banning, like....

* People who don't iron their shirts
* People who wear comedy ties
* People who think it's funny to fart loudly
* Footballers' hairstyles
* People who don't know the correct usage of the apostrophe

Yet none of the above are banned or picked out by management.
 
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sven256 said:
But they are not polluting the air in an enclosed environment.

Are e cigs even regulated these days? I know they were not in the past, if they are still unregulated anything could be lurking within them. depending where they are made. and i know for a fact I would not want to be breathing them in.
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Fully consumer regulated, in the same manner as air fresheners etc. that you may spray around your house for everyone to breathe.

Medically regulated? No. They shouldn't be, either.
 
sven256 said:
But they are not polluting the air in an enclosed environment.
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Nor are e-cig users. The steam from a freshly made hot beverage or a fart are affecting the air environment yet aren't banned by my employer.

sven256 said:
Are e cigs even regulated these days? I know they were not in the past, if they are still unregulated anything could be lurking within them. depending where they are made. and i know for a fact I would not want to be breathing them in.
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Yes, the "e-cigs aren't regulated" line is ridiculous, they are covered by over 40 EU and UK regulations. When people use that line, what they mean is they aren't treated as pharmaceutical products, and there is no logical reason as to why they should come under medicinal regulations.
 
estebanrey said:
You are making an argument based on personal opinion though. It's completely subjective as to how "unprofessional" vaping looks and not something you can state as fact.

Furthermore there are plenty of things I would consider not looking "professional" but wouldn't suggest banning, like....

* People who don't iron their shirts
* People who wear comedy ties
* People who think it's funny to fart loudly
* Footballers' hairstyles
* People who don't know the correct usage of the apostrophe

Yet none of the above are banned or picked out by management.
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have some self respect and respect for your colleagues if you do any of the above.

getting your panties in a twist over vaping, just proves that your addiction is more important than being a professional
 
Bennie-Mac said:
My local Tesco has this policy in effect, any employee who uses E-Cigs has to vape in the smokers area, they cant even go to their cars and vape because its a covered car park and classed as an internal space.
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Local supermarket Sainburys has a notice on the door that their policy is to ban use of e-cigs in the building, applies to customers as well as staff.

Wouldn't know exactly why but some of the points mentioned probly apply such as:

Looking somewhat like actual smoking
Being a less approved drug habit like alcohol drinking which would also get you removed from the store
 
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MrMoonX said:
have some self respect and respect for your colleagues if you do any of the above.

getting your panties in a twist over vaping, just proves that your addiction is more important than being a professional
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No. Logic, scientific discourse and libertarianism are more important to me than ill-informed perceptions.
 
itchy said:
Its just water vapour, I dont get what the fuss is about. :rolleyes:
We all exhale water vapor so what the problem with E-cigs? :o

Its just water!!!! ;)
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I'd wager a sight more hygienic than those times that Mr. Halitosis from the other side of the office comes over and leans close, asking if you can elaborate on 'that' request you put through to his department because he isn't entirely sure how much time to devote to the project.

Come on, we've all got one.
 
Pestilence said:
That's a tough question. Is sighing hygienic?
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Haha. No not the breathing out bit. I'm actually concerned for vapers health this time. (No, really.)

After all, keyboards are known to be festering pits of germs, bacteria and unpleasantness, and picking up an ecig and having a puff, that's a transfer right there. Like one of those dettol adverts with the glowing nasties. And do you put it down in a case? Or on a desk? I genuinely have no idea, this is like school all over again.
 
hurfdurf said:
It is disruptive to an office enviroment and incredibly unprofessional looking, I'm amazed you do not have the self awareness to realise this even within your thriving community of e-cig enthusiasts.
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Me, I'm not a part of a thriving community of e-cig enthusiasts. I smoke and I see e-cigs for what they really are - a two finger salute to the smoking bans.

People cried for the banning of smoking and they got their own way. What did you think would happen to all these smokers with a nicotine addiction? Did you think they would just all go away and vanish?

Now you have e-cigs, they're harmless to others and now people are calling on banning them completely. Why? It's a small metal tube that lights up for a couple of seconds and emits a vapor similar to a mini humidifier. It just screams of none smokers wanting to get their own way for no other reason other than "just because.."

How about this.. None smokers accept that smokers have an addiction, and that this addiction cannot just be banned away overnight just because you don't like it. And if you do eventually ban them then you'll just create a large bunch of people with a nicotine chewing gum addiction. Or should they ban them too?
 
I can understand organizations not wanting employees to be using drugs on the premises. But the reasons that the council gave are simply not credible.
 
bloodiedathame said:
Haha. No not the breathing out bit. I'm actually concerned for vapers health this time. (No, really.)

After all, keyboards are known to be festering pits of germs, bacteria and unpleasantness, and picking up an ecig and having a puff, that's a transfer right there. Like one of those dettol adverts with the glowing nasties. And do you put it down in a case? Or on a desk? I genuinely have no idea, this is like school all over again.
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Enough studies have been done on the contents of the vapour itself to have a universal agreement that it poses no risk to the user or bystanders (and this is accepted by the likes of the MHRA).

In terms of bacteria transfer... well, people like to chew on pens and set them down and what have you. You touch a thousand carriers a day and then touch your lips, your face, and others. I wouldn't worry about it in that regard. Unless you have AIDS or whatnot.
 
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