Work capability assessments stopped.
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My friend is going through a bit of a nightmare at the minute
Four rounds of open heart surgery and suffers from MS among other things. She gets £200 a month from the government. She is thinking about moving back in with her parents but they are both ill themselves (dads has a stroke and suffers with copd, and mum has cancer). Yesterday she had the letter about this and is really worried.
Then there are those people who seem to work the system and get thousands. No idea how!!!! getting money from the government is hard work
Four rounds of open heart surgery and suffers from MS among other things. She gets £200 a month from the government. She is thinking about moving back in with her parents but they are both ill themselves (dads has a stroke and suffers with copd, and mum has cancer). Yesterday she had the letter about this and is really worried.
Then there are those people who seem to work the system and get thousands. No idea how!!!! getting money from the government is hard work
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The bail outs were under Labours watch, quantitative easing is controlled by the central bank.
Labour are absolutely responsible for our predicament, which has far more to do with inefficient overspending by government.
Multiple claims, most likely.
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There is a guy in my block of flats who knows it inside out and back to front. He works and claims mental illness, been doing it for years. Seems he was 'taught' the tricks of the trade from his father. His stepmother is also claiming the same.
In addition his fathers best friend and her daughter claim as well and recently got another new mobility car. His father has just purchased a brand new van for his window cleaning round.
Loads of people report them but nothing ever happens. They have even boasted to me how they use to fool ATOS. They would walk into the interview and open a window. Then start bouncing a tennis ball against the wall or something and answer the questions with childish answers.
Yet somebody going through heart surgery who has probably paid a lot in taxes is virtually criminalized under this system.
Truly a joke.
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Someone who truly understands and sees it for what it really is, good post.
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I think it applies to all repeat WCA's regardless of what benefit you're in receipt of but don't quote me on it, still trying to get clarification as there hasn't been any official announcements.
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You just Godwin'd the thread. Well done.
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not quite the reaction i was trying to troll up but it will have to do
Seriously though, i dont think people should be pointing fingers at one particular political party as this issue affects all of us, not just the ones that vote blue or red or yellow.
To combat the massive over spend of the past drastic measures will be needed but like anything a government does it never works out quite as well as they imagine.
This is because we live in a democracy and the government in power has to pander to people that disagree with their views and human rights and the EU, instead of just cracking on.
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The problem isn't that we are spending too much, it's that the government is spending more than it has.
In theory we could reduce the expenditure, or increase taxes to cover the deficit. If we look at the total wealth distribution statistics (along with the trends involved) it becomes pretty clear what the problem is.
I'll give you a hint - it isn't the poor (as they have such a small proportion of the total wealth in existence they are statistically insignificant).
In theory we could reduce the expenditure, or increase taxes to cover the deficit. If we look at the total wealth distribution statistics (along with the trends involved) it becomes pretty clear what the problem is.
I'll give you a hint - it isn't the poor (as they have such a small proportion of the total wealth in existence they are statistically insignificant).
Out of interest what country is this? Because I can't see how a flat rate of (income) tax would generate enough funds without crucifying low earners.
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FIXED.
Which of these is it?.
1. You don't know the meaning of the word 'poor'.
2. You are confusing the word poor with 'poverty' then taking a subset of the general term (absolute poverty) & using that to try to make a point?.
A hand little guide to help educate & inform.
"Poverty is general scarcity or dearth, or the state of one who lacks a certain amount of material possessions or money.
Absolute poverty or destitution refers to the deprivation of basic human needs, which commonly includes food, water, sanitation, clothing, shelter, health care and education.
Relative poverty is defined contextually as economic inequality in the location or society in which people live."
Glen8 I feel for your friend, with her heart history the stress could easily kill her, my gf's neughbor is an ex nurse in her late 50's riddled with awful arthritis who has been passed fit for work she'll never be able to get, I guess the stress will kill her soon.
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Arrrrrrrgh, you got me
I would pay more in tax (I am already a higher rate payer) if the system was allowed to be scrupulously monitored and controlled. I have no objection to a fair distribution of allowance, I do object to a seemingly open commitment that once in the register, it is for life.
I have no objection to a company making a profit from this either as long as the work they do is correct and the profit reasonable.
I have no objection to a company making a profit from this either as long as the work they do is correct and the profit reasonable.
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She's been through a hell of a lot, believe me
Yup my aunt has MS which paved the way for liver and heart disease and diabetes, she is currently being assessed causing loads of upset throughout my family, IFS is ****ing away Tory votes by the million.
To be honest, I was shocked that the Conservatives didn't have the foresight to stamp down the work assessments scheme.
Many of their voters are pretty empathic regarding the disabled & really would much prefer them to focus on the long term jobless - tactically it's a poor move which is likely to cost them votes (from people who may have otherwise continued to vote for them).
I'd have expected a much greater focus on the long term jobless/claimants for JSA - as the average conservative voter is far more likely to support harsher penalties/methods of reducing fraud in that department.
Many of their voters are pretty empathic regarding the disabled & really would much prefer them to focus on the long term jobless - tactically it's a poor move which is likely to cost them votes (from people who may have otherwise continued to vote for them).
I'd have expected a much greater focus on the long term jobless/claimants for JSA - as the average conservative voter is far more likely to support harsher penalties/methods of reducing fraud in that department.