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I need some stuff to go with my new Guitar, recommendations for amp, cable, strap all sorts
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il be honest ray, i think a lot of the hate is the fashion now, talking with a mate who plays in a band who has prs and bc rich's and he just laughs at how its gotten worse and worse the more popular prs have gotten the last 10 years or so.
end of the day if it sounds and looks ok i cant see a problem with any guitar, sure there are ones id not want to own but i dont jump up and down going on and on about them like people (not just on here but on other forums) do.
i guess the same is true of modeling amp's some people think they are the devils work and a full tube setup is all you should ever own, even if all you do is noodle about in your bedroom.
end of the day its like playground mentality (and from my childhood) what trainers you own, if you cant afford or buy the wrong one your made fun of for no other reason than you picked something they dont like.
You are contradicting yourself.
No
You make massive sweeping generalisations tho.
335 are used in Jazz records... Gibsons don't have to growl...I can have a really twangy clean snap from my LP if I want....Or a Jazzy plonk....Again you make sweeping remarks.....
I have been enjoying your posts...But then you just got to sound like a first year degree student doing popular music....
It was nonsense...Contrived and filled with hot air....
You pigeon holed every guitar player in your last post...Saying a strat player was a mondeo and a PRS player was a Aston Martin...Not me
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It looks like Easyrider has gone back to his old ways - shame
Not at all....I just can't stand BS posts...
A PRS owner is not an Aston Martin driver....
il be honest ray, i think a lot of the hate is the fashion now, talking with a mate who plays in a band who has prs and bc rich's and he just laughs at how its gotten worse and worse the more popular prs have gotten the last 10 years or so.
end of the day if it sounds and looks ok i cant see a problem with any guitar, sure there are ones id not want to own but i dont jump up and down going on and on about them like people (not just on here but on other forums) do.
I said I didn't like it...Hardly jumping up and down.
Fact is...PRS are not Aston Martin owners...
I'm happy for Ray....I'm just dissapointed myself...The guitar has been purchased for looks....And thats a shame.
Ray should learn how to play the ******** thing first. I can't stand people who Talk the talk but fail to walk the walk.
I have a work colleague who bought a guitar so it looked cool in his front room when girls came round...
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You are making a fool of yourself now. Many other instruments at the beginner level cost the money ray has spent on the PRS.
This is an attitude trend of guitarists to hate on PRS, you don't get this in orchestras where instruments run into the tens of thousands. Guitars are inherently cheap but that doesn't mean a beginner has to start on one.
Yes... I know...I'm just frustrated at his purchase
At least it will look nice on its stand when not in use.
I think that PRS is fugly...Its not PRS hate its my opinion.
The headstock is laughable and the birds cringe worthy.... But thats just my opinion.
People have called my Zebrawood " driftwood" before...I don't care...I'm not insecure enough to worry about it
But at least only 400 other people in the world can have and own a Gibson LP driftwood
Flamed maple tops on guitars are like Clitoris guitars...
Every **** has one
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I'll quote myself earlier, i often work 70-80 hour week, i don't smoke, drink, gamble or even go out that much. I don't even eat out that often (unless you count sandwiches at lunch from EAT). I work hard for my money so it doesn't really matter if i had spent the same on a LP or the PRS. These are my vices.
I bet you would approve if I got a Strat or tele though for the same money.
As for walk the walk. I am trying, it's only been 6 weeks ! I openly admit I am not great at it, but why does that stop me spending my money that i earn?
I already gave you my feelings on the Tele...its just an opinion too.
p.s. I am not insecure about you or others not liking PRS either
I bet you would approve if I got a Strat or tele though for the same money.
As for walk the walk. I am trying, it's only been 6 weeks ! I openly admit I am not great at it, but why does that stop me spending my money that i earn?
I already gave you my feelings on the Tele...its just an opinion too.
p.s. I am not insecure about you or others not liking PRS either
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I just feel its a wasted opportunity.To own some interesting mojo...
A PRS is about as interesting as an episode of Eastenders....or Downton Abby ?
But thats my opinion....
I'm happy for you Ray...And you're right...You earn it so spend it!
When I was starting out...the only thing that interested me was learning guitar....I punished myself and didn't buy a real guitar until I had earned it...
What do I know anyway....
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Well, i work hard so I didn't feel like I want to punish myself...it's not really a rite of passage that it has to be walked on for everyone. I am sure if someone gave you a Les Paul standard when you started out you would take it. (except no one gave me my guitars).
I got a job washing dishes when I was 15...When I earnt 60 quid I jacked it and bought myself a Honher Strat copy.
I practiced 8 hours a day....I then bought a Gibson SG standard in cherry when I was 18....I eventually hated it....Bought purely on looks as I was discovering Zappa at the time...
I traded it for a second hand telecaster and the rest is history.
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If I happen to hate it, i am sure i can pass it on for a profit. So it's not really a concern at all.
But it feels great in the hand to me, compare to a les paul. It's lighter, it is thinner, i like the contour body shape at the back. I like the neck. I like the idea of the 5 way blade switch over the push pull caps.
But it feels great in the hand to me, compare to a les paul. It's lighter, it is thinner, i like the contour body shape at the back. I like the neck. I like the idea of the 5 way blade switch over the push pull caps.
Did you actually try a USA Standard strat?
Its sounds like you are describing one!
Have you an amp?
I'll post a video later of me spanking out some stuff on my Deluxe strat for you...I'll make sure I lock my mondeo outside.
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There are no contradictions if you stop picking sentences out of context and stop taking things literally, and I still feel it's a very good generalisation for beginners:
- you want bright, dry, twangy, clean sound, reach for standard tele
- you want bright, twangy but fuller sound and more versatility, reach for standard strat
- you want fast, loud, to be used mostly overdriven to 11, reach for superstrat
- you want darker, beefier, growling tone, reach for standard les paul
You are taking things too literally. It was just a figure of speech.
In that figurative example Tele was like a mini van because Tele's are the most made for purpose guitars out of all instruments featured in the example. I know you don't agree with that, but consider this - it will be much easier to get tele-like twang from any of the guitars in that example than for tele to emulate humbucker etc.
Strat is like a mondeo because it's most popular, most universally accepted, "one size fits all" guitar range.
Superstrat for pure speed and riffage, so I chose GTR.
Les Paul is about the fatter, beefier, darker, humbucker sound. It's the guitar model where choice of wood, figured top, finish and colour of binding becomes a factor, a thing. So I likened it to the popular upmarket cruiser, bigger, stronger than Mondeo, with bigger engine, more power. You get to tailor custom leather to finish in this one. Just like in Gibson Les Paul range.
And then there is the PRS. Contains a little of all guitars, to a degree, does not particularly excel in anything on its own but luxury and finish, and for the price of it new you could probably purchase all four aforementioned models combined. Not as sparkly clean as Tele, not as down to earth universal as Strat, not as dark and bluesy as Les Paul, not as fast and whammy happy as superstrat. But money no object, who wouldn't want one "in the middle" guitar like this. Clearly an Aston Martin of guitar world, no? Comfy but not as good family car as Mondeo, well handling, but not as perfect business cruiser as 5 series, not really good at anything that Connect could do, fast but not as "back of the business estate, under the bridge" racing happy as GTR. And yet if you had enough money, that car, although it doesn't really excel at anything, but what it does does well while maintaining that look and panache - who wouldn't? Not Aston Martin? How about Porsche Panamera, just to add "marmite looks" to the mix?
How about we scrap the whole figurative example all together and just stay with the basics in first paragraph of this post? I thought it was good figurative example. I think you understood it too, you know I didn't mean literally that Fender players must drive mondeo and PRS drivers must drive Aston, you are too bright not to, and once you actually read what you replied to in angst, you knew it was silly to get shirty about it, but you don't like to back down, so you are just being obtuse on purpose and plow with this titanic of an argument until you alienate your audience.
The guitar has been purchased for looks....And thats a shame.
Ray should learn how to play the ******** thing first. I can't stand people who Talk the talk but fail to walk the walk.
I have a work colleague who bought a guitar so it looked cool in his front room when girls came round...
At least it will look nice on its stand when not in use.
I think that PRS is fugly...Its not PRS hate its my opinion.
A PRS is about as interesting as an episode of Eastenders....or Downton Abby ?
The headstock is laughable and the birds cringe worthy....
Flamed maple tops on guitars are like Clitoris guitars...
Every **** has one
Darn... why don't you tell us what you really think.
Look. It's a great guitar for the price. Any of us would be over the moon lucky to have something like this as our first solidbody electric. Most of active players won't have such instrument in their life time. One could do much worse than PRS for a "one and only" guitar. For the money it was definitely better choice than current "under £1200" Les Paul range, and better investment than current "under £1200" American Fender range. I'd be more disappointed if Ray thrown over a grand on a US Tele or US Strat as his first guitar. Buying undervalued boutique studio guitar instead is really not a shame.
Yes, Ray could have purchased several used guitars for the money but he wanted one guitar. That was his target. One guitar that's universally good to play, last for years no matter what genre of music he decides to play and in the same time he wanted it to be aesthetically pleasing nice to look at when he doesn't play it (keep in mind Ray is one of the best photographers one encounters on internet forums). I think he succeeded. It's going to be pleasure to pick it up and fantastic feel and sound will encourage him to do so every time, I have no doubt.
Pressed to the wall I would admit that my advice would be to go for PRS with pull/push coil split, just so he could get closer to that single coil twang when he inevitably tries to emulate his hero - "The Boss", but there is so much good craftsmanship in this Custom 24, you can't really fault it. I'd personally buy one immediately too if I found one mint for that kind of money.
People have called my Zebrawood " driftwood" before...I don't care...I'm not insecure enough to worry about it
Your zebrawood is beautiful model and a great "custom" item, is that 2007 Classic model with binding and burstbuckers?
Gibson has been making Smartwood Exotic on and off since 1996 but mostly as Studios. Series were limited to about 1000 per batch, but that's per batch of wood sourced, not per finish or run. All exotics, excluding Classic series, which I think your microberlinia topped model is, had thinner and lighter bodies than standard Les Pauls and with 490R/498T combo they sounded closer to Gibson SG standard than full bodied Les Paul Standard with Burstbuckers.
You have quite a few rare items in your collection. SG that doesn't sound like SG, Les Paul that's unlike most Les Pauls, Tele that's more Tele than most Teles. All roads from your rehersal room seem to lead to Nashville, don't know if intentionally?
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What you guys reckon to a 7 or an 8 string? Part of me would love one to mess around with... I doubt I'd buy a real expensive one though if I did, probably one of the £200 - £300ish ones which is about the cheapest you can get. Any of you guys ever thought about it?
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Yup, that was the aim, I can't imagine having a wall full of guitars. There are people with a dozen...half of them are the same model with minor differences like different pick up, or limited edition. I don't want to do that, 4 is my limit. If i were to get another, is a full size acoustic. That way I have 1 full size electric, 1 full size acoustic, the hybrid T5 and the small GS mini for travel should I want to and it's a great practice and couch guitar.
So back to the mission, which was an electric. I toyed with the idea of a Yamaha Pacifica. Great guitar sure, and a decent one for the money but it is no PRS and the money to spend on the Pacifica has gone into the PRS. I just cut out all the steps one would to begin with and went with what we all one day want (except those who doesn't like PRS).
as for that Strat sound.
Position 4, that is pretty close, and to be honest (as if i wasn't already), my skills is not at the point where i would appreciate the difference between the twang sound the PRS can do compare to the Strat.
So yes, I went out to get 1 electric, i got one, and i think I got an very good one for a great price.
I am going to practice my scales now
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Well I finely got a replacement for my rubbish starter guitar.
Went for a Epiphone Standard Plus top Pro in vintage Sunburst and love it!
New Guitar by Psycho_Hamster, on Flickr
Went for a Epiphone Standard Plus top Pro in vintage Sunburst and love it!
New Guitar by Psycho_Hamster, on Flickr
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Nice LP
Question, i am going to get some spare strings, what brands do you guys recommend? Elixir Nanoweb? PRS? D'Addario EXP? Ernie Ball 2221 ?
Question, i am going to get some spare strings, what brands do you guys recommend? Elixir Nanoweb? PRS? D'Addario EXP? Ernie Ball 2221 ?