London set to ban older cars.

They just wanna keep the 'upper class' areas 'upper class', by forcing the lower orders and their tatty bangers off from the roads. Central London is full of obnoxious stuck up twits anyway.

Well that escalated quickly.

OcUK, where class war is the answer to every question.
 
They just wanna keep the 'upper class' areas 'upper class', by forcing the lower orders and their tatty bangers off from the roads. Central London is full of obnoxious stuck up twits anyway.

Nah, I'm a believer that this kind of thing (and the "moron" road tax system) is just there to prop up a flagging new car industry and put money in the coffers.

Think about it - for every £10,000 car sold the government get a cool two grand.

Get the majority of the brainless population believing it and the money will start rolling in quickly.

No doubt the transportation the MPs use will be somehow exempt from these regulations. If it wasn't it wouldn't get passed.
 
Good plan. Lets scrap a load of perfectly serviceable older cars, and instead pump a load of **** into the atmosphere by building new ones with marginally lower emissions.*


*Some or all of this post may be sarcastic.

Some or all of that post is bang on!

Lets boost the economy by forcing people to upgrade their cars.

Looks like a poor tax to me.
 
Nah, I'm a believer that this kind of thing (and the "moron" road tax system) is just there to prop up a flagging new car industry and put money in the coffers.

Think about it - for every £10,000 car sold the government get a cool two grand.

Get the majority of the brainless population believing it and the money will start rolling in quickly.

No doubt the transportation the MPs use will be somehow exempt from these regulations. If it wasn't it wouldn't get passed.

Nothing to do with energy security
Pollution/health
EU carbon limits we've agreed to and will be fined massive amounts if we don't comply.
 
Some or all of that post is bang on!

Lets boost the economy by forcing people to upgrade their cars.

Looks like a poor tax to me.

That was my feeling!! :(

I enjoy taking my family to London for day trips, but I wouldn't be in a financial position to replace my car to be compliant!
 
That was my feeling!! :(

I enjoy taking my family to London for day trips, but I wouldn't be in a financial position to replace my car to be compliant!

Why on earth would you drive into the centre. Why would you pay the congestion charge, drive to the outskirts and get public transport in, that way you avoid any sub schemes.
 
What a short sighted silly view. Its far from perfect, but its still good and implement a lot of things we would be worse off without.

Slightly OT, but Glaucus, when the EU fined Microsoft, who did you side with?

Why on earth would you drive into the centre. Why would you pay the congestion charge, drive to the outskirts and get public transport in, that way you avoid any sub schemes.

I'll say it - I do agree with you there. I don't agree with this rule but really, there's little point in taking a car into central London unless it's an utter necessity. The PT system there is very good, far better than most of the UK.
 
What a short sighted silly view. Its far from perfect, but its still good and implement a lot of things we would be worse off without.

Horaay for a massive influx of migrant workers/criminals (delete as appropriate). Taking the jobs we don't have.

Have you seen the state of the UK economy?

Out of EU full stop.
 

The response to my OT question. Just wondered, that's all. Back on topic. :)

The big diluter to the CO2 and air quality argument is that we tax cars on emissions, fine high polluters etc. but then we don't do it based on actual miles driven.

We also let the likes of China and USA pump tons of CO2 from coal into the atmosphere and (seem) to put little pressure on them to change.

If global warming, pollution, and air quality is a problem I'm happy to address it, as long as "we're all in it together" (tm D.Cameron).
 
Horaay for a massive influx of migrant workers/criminals (delete as appropriate). Taking the jobs we don't have.

Have you seen the state of the UK economy?

Out of EU full stop.

Go back to your daily mail properganda, or better still go look out the window.


It's the buses that cause poor air quality.

Its everything, it is far from just buses.
 
The response to my OT question. Just wondered, that's all. Back on topic. :)

The big diluter to the CO2 and air quality argument is that we tax cars on emissions, fine high polluters etc. but then we don't do it based on actual miles driven.

We also let the likes of China and USA pump tons of CO2 from coal into the atmosphere and (seem) to put little pressure on them to change.

If global warming, pollution, and air quality is a problem I'm happy to address it, as long as "we're all in it together" (tm D.Cameron).

China and us do not affect our air quality significantly. Inner city pollution is almost entirely are own doing. and china and America are actually doing a lot fir CO2 reduction. China has one of the biggest nuclear building programs.

Banning Microsoft from bundling software, didn't help anyone.
Emissions, minimum product specs(light bulbs, vacuums, guareentes), river pollution and a whole host of other EU regulations are beneficial to everyone.
 
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