Yes, unions really don't care about biting the hand that feeds them. These union members are employees, not employers. They have a job and they're getting paid for it. They can take it or leave it like anyone else who is employed. Don't like your conditions? **** off then and find another job.
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Yes, unions really don't care about biting the hand that feeds them. These union members are employees, not employers. They have a job and they're getting paid for it. They can take it or leave it like anyone else who is employed. Don't like your conditions? **** off then and find another job.
Communism is about worker ownership of the means of production.
You can have capitalism with wage caps, the two aspects are not fundamentally linked In way you are implying.
What you are doing is presenting a false dichotomy.
I pay respects by saying RIP, but I have no respect for him in the office he held and the complete lack of forward thinking he displayed. He was a relic of the old school left wing nutjobs who impeded progress in the name of "the workers" while he sat in a tax payers funded house or lying on a beach sipping champagne. Not representative of the workforce at all and more interested in keeping his own pockets lined with gold.
However RIP and sympathy for his family.
However RIP and sympathy for his family.
Absolutely spot on, have a +1
It's always sad to see the hypocrites crawl out of the woodwork when someone big dies. Suddenly their past is clean as a sheet.
All Comedians become "Comedy geniuses" all Actors suddenly become "Legends", all singers "Defined a generation", all politicians become great "Servants to the people" makes you want to roll your eyes
Not limited to celebrates either. Young tearaways that terrorised local communities becomes a "cheeky chappy" that was "Full of Life" when he wins a Darwin award for wrapping a stolen car round a tree.
If you were a **** in life then because you're dead doesn't mean you get a free pass. The only people that seem to not are dictators!
Do you resent that as a group those workers have a more equitable relationship with their employer than you do? That they don't have to simply 'take it or leave it'? Why should there be such an imbalance of power between employers and employees?
How exactly do they have an equitable relationship when their method of improving their own positions is essentially blackmail? If they had an equitable relationship with their employer they wouldn't need to strike every 6 months. As an aside I completely understand the reason for unions and I support them in theory.
As a human being who has died I would offer my condolences to his family and friends.
As the man he was, honestly don't care.
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You died and can empathise? Then how did you type that post?
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Qi fact for you, a lot of the sayings we use today come from people criticising the dead in a "nice way" in their obituaries.
For example, saying someone "doesn't suffer fools gladly" is used today as a compliment as someone who is assertive and doesn't like being distracted from achieving their goals. However, the original meaning was a nice way of saying someone was a miserable sod.
Because without that power their employer would be more free to impose whatever conditions they liked. They would, to quote Merlin5, have to 'take it or leave it'.
Awwww poor you, having to work from home for a day, while the union members strike so that over 700 of them don't lose their jobs.
RIP Bob, I hope someone half as good takes over.
Absolutely spot on, have a +1
It's always sad to see the hypocrites crawl out of the woodwork when someone big dies. Suddenly their past is clean as a sheet.
All Comedians become "Comedy geniuses" all Actors suddenly become "Legends", all singers "Defined a generation", all politicians become great "Servants to the people" makes you want to roll your eyes
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Not that I expected anything better from such a gobby forum armchair critic of other members. Could you be any more two-dimensional and lazy in your attempts at provocative opinion?
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I completely respect what he did for the unions. He was very capable at what he did. He annoyed a hell of a lot of people with what he did (myself included), but at the same time, he is another man, who lived a life, and did well at it.
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Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
Not that I expected anything better from such a gobby forum armchair critic of other members. Could you be any more two-dimensional and lazy in your attempts at provocative opinion?
And all Theophany's become "forum celebrity that made people laugh"
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Robgmun you've narrowly escaped a suspension in this thread - I suggest you think long and hard before you post again.
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It's not about being immune to criticism.
However, he has only just died - he may not have been liked (I certainly wasn't a fan) however, he is still a person, a father, a husband and a friend to many people.
If you want to lambaste his policies, start a thread about it, if you want to be disrespectful about his death, this is not the place to do it.
I would say the same about any person whether famous or not. It's called being a decent human being and not being unnecessarily callous which is completely uncalled for.