'Contact lost' with Malaysia Airlines plane

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Westyfield2 said:
"Satellites picked up an 'electronic ping' from the missing Malaysian flight after contact was lost, according to sources."
http://news.sky.com/story/1225535/malaysia-flight-satellite-received-signal

"US Officials Have 'Indication' Malaysia Airline Crashed into Indian Ocean"
http://abcnews.go.com/International...irline-crashed-indian-ocean/story?id=22894802


Hmm, Americans perhaps know more than the Malaysians!
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"there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water. "

If that is true it has to be a failed hijacking surely?
 
Despite MAS and Boeing/RR saying no data was transmitted after 1:07 am, the US are proceeding to search the Indian Ocean:

Communications satellites picked up faint electronic pulses from Malaysia Airlines flight 370 after it went missing on Saturday, but the signals gave no indication about where the stray jet was heading nor its technical condition, a source close to the investigation said early today.

The "pings" equated to an indication that the aircraft's maintenance troubleshooting systems were ready to communicate with satellites if needed, but no links were opened because Malaysia Airlines and others had not subscribed to the full troubleshooting service, the source said.

Two sources familiar with the investigation into the disappearance of the jet five days ago also confirmed that manufacturers Boeing and Rolls-Royce did not receive any maintenance data from the jet after the point at which its pilots last made contact.

Only one engine maintenance update was received during the normal phase of flight, they said, speaking on condition on anonymity.

Boeing and Rolls-Royce declined comment. - Reuters, March 14, 2014.

In a statement released today, the US Navy announced that from March 15, a P-8A Poseidon will be commissioned to the Strait of Malacca to aid in search efforts.
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MARCH 13, 2014 - themalaysianinsider.com
 
Based on no information whatsoever I'm going to guess the planes electronics failed, the pilots turned back but were shot down and now the Malaysians are desperately trying to cover it up by hampering search and rescue attempts before the Chinese find the plane, realise what's happened and nuke Malaysia.
 
The Americans seem to know more than everybody else (unsurprisingly) and have decided that it crashed somewhere in the Indian Ocean.
A few of their navy boats are on the way to the expected location from their original search near Malaysia, it'll take at least 24 hours to get there.
 
why havent we heard anything about the cargo manifest, crew history, witnesses like load masters, fuel masters etc, how much fuel was loaded into the plane, have the police searched the crews houses, what have they find? what a mess damn it
 
Some great posts from AV Herald:

Boss: What is the chance of success?
Aviator/Hijacker: 110% guarantee. No problem boss. Good planning, right time, right place, right plane, right fuel, right load, right route, right people.
Boss: What is the chance of getting shot down?
Aviator: Relax boss. Can fly to Moscow in a plane, can even take 3 planes on a ride in USA. Nobody expects anything from our direction. We will be gone and out of range of their airspace in no time, nobody will do anything.
Boss: OK do it.

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staffer: Mr President here's today's briefing.
Potus: Hey, what's going on with that Malaysian plane?
staffer: I can ask our intelligence folks.
24 hrs later
Potus: What did you learn?
Staffer: Not sure, but they say Boeing and RollsRoyce might know more, they should have been monitoring the engines.
Potus: Great, see what you can find out.
24 hours later
staffer: Sir, there are all sorts of reports, and the Malaysians are contradicting themselves, and the info we have from RollsRoyce.
Potus: Then figure it out for them. Let them say they figured it out.
24 hours later
Staffer: uh, Sir, they're not even close to our best guess, and refuse to listen.
Potus: Really? Are they at least on the right track?
Staffer: No Sir, they're no where near the station.
Potus: Go find it for them.
staffer: Yes, sir.

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Radar operator: Thought there was a blip there but lost it against the background mountains.
Boss: Not another one of your UFO. Can you confirm heading and altitude. Any identity?
Radar operator: I am looking. But nothing certain.
Boss: Does it look like a flight of warplanes? Can't be somebody sending only one plane to attack. Is it heading anywhere dangerous?
Radar operator: No, yes, no.
Boss: NO ALERT. Catch up on your sleep.
 
Jono8 said:
"there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water. "

If that is true it has to be a failed hijacking surely?
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or a slow decompression scenario. Not heard anything further about the potential of that, but it could have a similar outcome.
 
In helios flight fighter jets were scrambled to see wth was wrong with this flight, why havent the malaysians or the vietnamese done the same, you have an aircraft which doesnt respond, send some jets to check it out...well they did not.

Also, MH370 captain was conscious cause @ 35.000 ft he was handed over to vietnamese ATC, in helios flight crew was already starting passing out at 18.000 ft....they surely should have contacted ATC if they were feeling sth wasnt right. Yet they disappeared right after they were handed over to VN ATC, thats not a coincidence
 
Jono8 said:
"there were indications that the plane flew four or five hours after disappearing from radar and that they believe it went into the water. "

If that is true it has to be a failed hijacking surely?
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While this sounds plausible, or even if there was a slow decompression causing crew and passenger incapacitation, there is no way a plane flying on autopilot, not responding, possibly deviating off course, wouldn't be intercepted... I just can't see how a plane can travel for 4 to 5 hours, essentially unauthorised, and not catch anyone's attention.
 
I also doubt that it could fly for hours and go unnoticed.

The only clear thing about all this is just how bad it's being dealt with. It's so bad that I can't help but think someone isn't being totally honest with the facts at hand.

If they are looking in the wrong place: With all this time passing, It's highly likely that everyone is dead from that flight, sadly.

What's I keep thinking is the possibility that it has crashed and then sunk in an unusual way, leaving next to no trace.

How powerful are the black box transmitters?
 
The Americans probably spotted it on satellite the moment it went down/off course. Probably going to release bits slowly so as to not embarrass the Malaysians/not look as if they really have eyes on everything in the entire world.
 
Tomnod has updated their search area again*. I believe they are in the area where the chinese found their latest clue but I may be wrong

*I'm not sure if I was right when they said they updated the first time, or if it simply wasn't loading the screens I had seen before
 
How hard/easy is it for crew/hijacker to turn off relevant electronics so the plane isn't transmitting data/call signs? I know the physical body of the plane will be picked up by radar but is it possible to take controller of a plane and make it invisible to radio and other electronic reception?

Things don't add up with this disappearance, unlike the Air France flight which even thou it disappeared suddenly over the ocean they found bits of wreckage within days. Feel families.
 
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