I'm rubbish at DIY and I don't have a driving licence. Those things are not sex-specific.
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I'm rubbish at DIY and I don't have a driving licence. Those things are not sex-specific.
Agreed, it just means you are less manly
That's true. Fortunately, I don't care. I no longer accept much pressure to conform to gendered ideas. Gender is mostly just fashion. It's a rather silly idea. I'm not complete immune to conditioning, of course, but I'm somewhat resistant to it.
Disagreed on it just being fashion. The two genders are very different in many respects. Particularly mentally and hormonely. Of course that line blurs from person to person, but generally we are very different yet very alike.
You can say the same about different nationalities - very different.
Maybe, as with different nationalities, the differences are less to do with "natural" male/female tendencies and more to do with upbringing.
Consider how differently boys and girls are treated from even as young as birth, and weigh up whether those differences in treatment might actually strongly contribute to the differences we see in adults.
Like suicide being the leading cause of death of males between 20-49?
Studies suggest this is due to the "man up" culture i.e. the way boys are brought up differently from girls and are expected to get on with things without support mechanisms in place that women may have access to - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26543095
Anyone wanting to take the easy way out and take their own life needs to MTFU in my opinion....
I suggest that decades of a profoundly sexist ideology having a lot of power has had an effect. It's ignored because feminism is treated as inviolate gospel, but it's ridiculous to think it hasn't had any effect.
Rubbish.
Take a look at history. You will find people equally convinced of the inherent truth of different ideas about gender. Like you, they confused gender with sex and therefore assumed that gender was biological when in fact it's mostly social. There are some aspects of gender that are biological (e.g. there is a significant tendency for men to be bigger than women), but the great majority of gender is social conditioning. That is proven by the fact that gender changes without biological changes occuring. Not only is there no causal link - there isn't even a correlation!
Male people and female people are treated quite differently from birth. Nowadays, sometimes even before birth. It's obvious that would result in some tendencies towards differences, i.e. gender, but even then gender changes without relevant changes in treatment. I think it is entirely accurate to say that gender is mostly fashion.
Pink serves as a good example. In this country, pink has been a gendered colour for a long time...but how it's gendered has changed repeatedly. First it was gendered very strongly masculine, then it was gendered extremely strongly feminine and now it's gendered quite strongly feminine.
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I thought they just had valentines day and now they have female day and then they have mothers day, tough life for them women eh...
States "rubbish" then immediately contradicts ones self with another statement. Right, riiiiight.
You ought to relax you massive girl, stop getting your frilly Knickers in a twist.
Thanks for confirming that you either couldn't understand the ideas involved (if you believe what you wrote) or knew you couldn't argue against them (if you don't). There is no contradiction.
Also, thanks for the amusement you provided by making a fool of yourself.