why choose win7 over win8

[Tute]

I did say in my previous post


I could also argue what's hard with clicking in Win8?.... But then with respect you probably come out with a comment like it takes 2000 clicks to get somewhere,where it takes me one or two clicks max .

I'll say in some ways Win8 has a more flexlible interface then Win7,but then neither is considered rocket science or anything but easy to use,any easier it will be console level IMHO.

The penalty for that flexibility is that it's not as good for M&KB as Windows 7. I can fully understand why Microsoft have taken this path but I've said it before and i'll say it again - they'll end up forking development or losing the desktop market.

I expect they'll fork - so i'll wait and see what they can offer me when they do.

[Edit] And please, stop going on about DOS to Windows 95. Windows 95 was an improvement to DOS in just about every single conceivable way at the time. It was worth learning to use the Start Menu because there were huge benefits to the whole operating system.

 

[Elevon]

I love Linux, server versions with no gui... but I have to adapt to my surroundings otherwise my job would be at risk and I will be jobless.

I use Linux too ie Ubuntu,Zorin,Mint,always amazes me how some users moan about simple Windows,to think I've no PC training at all,I have come a long way over the decades but then I don't mind change or adapting to new operating systems regardless of Windows or Linux .

 

[Deleted member 77746]

I use Linux too ie Ubuntu,Zorin,Mint,always amazes me how some users moan about simple Windows,to think I've no PC training at all,I have come a long way over the decades but then I don't mind change or adapting to new operating systems regardless of Windows or Linux .

Sometimes it's easier for me now just to say I'm not sure how to do things. The users always find a way. (Yes I do testical support).....

Hello Testical Support.... "What you don't know how to touch the screen", "Just touch it", "You know? Put your finger on it", 'TOUCH IT", "For Crying Out LOUD" ... "Hangs up phone"

 

[Elevon]

[Edit] And please, stop going on about DOS to Windows 95. Windows 95 was an improvement to DOS in just about every single conceivable way at the time. It was worth learning to use the Start Menu because there were huge benefits to the whole operating system.

Don't think I said anything about Win95 in this thread,even if I did last time I checked it was a forum for all members here,as to DOS I've very fond memories of it and to me the learning curve was higher then Win95 etc,all those DOS commands ,IRQ remapping,memory rearrangement etc ,Win95 was the first step on making things easier for a lot of users,clicking(main feature of any Windows) is not rocket science .

I think some users have got dumber and lazy over the decades IMHO.

Regardless should be interesting to see what users moan about with Win9 and 10,will it ever stop I guess not but then some of the excuses will be terrible and funny.

 

[bloodiedathame]

I installed Win 8.1 last night. What a tragic OS for anyone who needs to do anything remotely productive. Yeah it's fine for titting around with 'apps' like Facebook but lo-and behold you try and do any sort of work on there. Gash corner gestures, a totally backwards way of finding anything you need (charms search), and Cinebench ran slower than on a Win 7 HP machine. There's been enough Metro bashing so I won't cover that. It's not an OS designed for someone who just runs 3 or 4 applications as a workstation, which is exactly what I do.

 

[abbotsmike]

the wifi manager isnt so much the bad bit as the woeful problems ive experienced with trying to connect to university wifi systems, problems that dont exist on xp, vista, 7, mac or android.

yet I still find on a day to day basis having to spend 40+ minutes of my time struggling to get it to connect when it should be just set up, auto connect, never worry about again.

I would blame some of that on the setup of the wi-fi network, mine can be the same. It was a complete train crash on my xp laptop, my blackberry would pick and choose. Android is mostly reliable, and windows 8 seems to work perfectly, except when the network itself is having a hissy fit.

 

[theheyes]

I installed Win 8.1 last night. What a tragic OS for anyone who needs to do anything remotely productive... It's not an OS designed for someone who just runs 3 or 4 applications as a workstation, which is exactly what I do.

I'd agree insofar that metro is pretty useless for running more than two applications concurrently, but the idea that Windows 8.x as an OS is not productive is a fallacy. Power users will spend the vast majority of their time in desktop mode.

 

[linktoinsanity]

I'm not running Windows 8 on any of my machines at the moment. Main PC is still on Windows 7 (out of choice) as is my second PC (CBA to do a reinstall, otherwise, may load Win8 on that) and my laptop has an issue with Speedstep in 8.1, which nobody could answer, so it is back on Windows 7, working fine.

I don't have a huge issue with Windows 8, apart from the Metro Interface, which I really don't like.

 

[K1LLSW1TCH]

I've got a Windows 8 upgrade disk somewhere, only reason I haven't bothered installing it is because it doesn't offer anything for me that I can't already do in Windows 7. I did try the pre-release version and I wasn't particularly sold by all the Metro tat, I would never have used that area of Windows on my desktop and if I'm running in "desktop" mode all the time I might as well just stick with what I already have.

 

[adolf hamster]

I would blame some of that on the setup of the wi-fi network, mine can be the same. It was a complete train crash on my xp laptop, my blackberry would pick and choose. Android is mostly reliable, and windows 8 seems to work perfectly, except when the network itself is having a hissy fit.

that could be the issue, although if so it's having a hissy fit constantly, on just 2 occasions it has worked fine off the bat

 

[Rainmaker]

I really don't understand the fuss. I'm a Linux man and love tinkering in Debian, CentOS, OpenSUSE etc, but that said I do have a Windows desktop. I only saw Metro once and that was when I installed Win 8.1 x64 and it booted for the first time. It took less than 2 minutes to select boot to desktop and install Start8's menu after disabling the charms. Now I have a machine that behaves identically to Win7 but is even faster, smoother, and has much improved file transfers, security and networking.

Maybe I'm special, but it seems to me the only objection people have to Win8 are so trivial and fixable that it's almost laughable to make such a big deal of it.

 

[DaleTheWhale]

It's not an OS designed for someone who just runs 3 or 4 applications as a workstation, which is exactly what I do.

...What?! Desktop mode still exists all the same as Windows 7? I use several applications at once and it works the same as 7.

PS: Windows Key + Start Typing = Search (Charm search can take a while to open)
Or: Windows Key + S + Start typing.

 

[spoffle]

The penalty for that flexibility is that it's not as good for M&KB as Windows 7. I can fully understand why Microsoft have taken this path but I've said it before and i'll say it again - they'll end up forking development or losing the desktop market.

I expect they'll fork - so i'll wait and see what they can offer me when they do.

There isn't a penalty at all, Windows 8 is fine for keyboard and mouse usage, and isn't a step back compared to Windows 7. In fact, it's quicker to do most things in 8 than it is in 7, in terms of clicks and cursor travel.

Also, they won't fork, and they aren't losing the desktop market. It now seems the ones who can't or won't accept Windows 8 are in the minority, the majority have gotten over the changes, and embraced the improvements with 8.1 and warmed up to the OS.

 

[spoffle]

I installed Win 8.1 last night. What a tragic OS for anyone who needs to do anything remotely productive. Yeah it's fine for titting around with 'apps' like Facebook but lo-and behold you try and do any sort of work on there. Gash corner gestures, a totally backwards way of finding anything you need (charms search), and Cinebench ran slower than on a Win 7 HP machine. There's been enough Metro bashing so I won't cover that. It's not an OS designed for someone who just runs 3 or 4 applications as a workstation, which is exactly what I do.

I get the distinct feeling that you've not actually properly used it, as I don't understand how you can say it's not designed for someone who wants to use it in a workstation. I manage to use it on a workstation with no issues.

 

[bloodiedathame]

Admittedly I've only started using 8.1 today, but it feels no way near as finished as W7. Yes, it works as a desktop workstation ok, apart from the hangs I seem to be getting... explorer is an ugly ballache though, I mean that there is no hierarchy to the windows, where the panels inside explorer used to be separated by colour, everything now sits on white, which is daft as it melds all the info on the screen into itself. And the borders being light grey and windows with no drop shadow mean that explorer sitting over another white page means they meld into each other again. I'm not going to write an essay over this, but it really feels like MS forgot what they were doing when they designed this(threw-it-together).

I like the Task Manager.

 

[Wizzfizz]

Prefer Windows 7 myself.

 

[Jamin280672]

I really don't understand the fuss. I'm a Linux man and love tinkering in Debian, CentOS, OpenSUSE etc, but that said I do have a Windows desktop. I only saw Metro once and that was when I installed Win 8.1 x64 and it booted for the first time. It took less than 2 minutes to select boot to desktop and install Start8's menu after disabling the charms. Now I have a machine that behaves identically to Win7 but is even faster, smoother, and has much improved file transfers, security and networking.

Maybe I'm special, but it seems to me the only objection people have to Win8 are so trivial and fixable that it's almost laughable to make such a big deal of it.

Im the same, first time I used and saw Windows 8 I hated it, even if the boot speed was twice as fast as Windows 7, I could live without that, I went straight back to Windows 7 Pro x64.

After a bit of investigating I discovered you can make Windows 8.1 look and behave exactly the same as Windows 7, so I put it back on, im using Startisback for the Windows 7 style start menu and AeroGlass to get the proper glass theme back, whilst enjoying 6-8 seconds to boot to the desktop, ive not seen the metro theme or charms, or any of the added junk since the day I re-installed Windows 8.1

 

[Vanilla]

Bah now i'm unsure.

I'm on Win 7 but have the 8 upgrade. Came looking for a definitive answer on which to go for

 

[linktoinsanity]

Also, they won't fork, and they aren't losing the desktop market. It now seems the ones who can't or won't accept Windows 8 are in the minority, the majority have gotten over the changes, and embraced the improvements with 8.1 and warmed up to the OS.

I'm not really sure who you have been talking to, but the vast majority of friends, relatives and clients I speak to don't accept Windows 8 as being any good. Usually I have to defend it, (suggesting Startisback and the like) apart from on here where the same few names tirelessly defending it against any small amount of criticism. This often pushes me onto the other side of the fence.

 

[mmj_uk]

The same few fanboys have been pretending that those who dislike Windows 8 are in the minority since it was released, it's an embarrassing perversion of reality.