I want to live in America

Glaucus said:
You forget how big the us is and different states have different laws.
You can camp in many places in the us. And planning permission outside major cities can be pretty much non existent.

Wild camping in Britain is band as you need the owners permison. Except for certain areas on Dartmoor. Yes you can get away with it in lots of national parks, that doesn't make it legal or remove the laws.
Scotland on the other hand has very good wild camping laws.

And the rest of Europe as I say, if you own land you have a right to live on it in mobile accommodation with no planning permission.

The uk is ridiculous on these overly strict rules forcing everyone into massive debt as you have little choice but to rent or buy an expensive house.
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Because there are too many people crammed in to a small space... Unfortunately the small space is becoming the world at an ever faster rate. There are many places in the world that have either been destroyed by too many people (including tourist locations) or have been set aside as no go zones to protect them from the too many people.
 
Amp34 said:
Because there are too many people crammed in to a small space... Unfortunately the small space is becoming the world at an ever faster rate. There are many places in the world that have either been destroyed by too many people (including tourist locations) or have been set aside as no go zones to protect them from the too many people.
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Partial true and not at the same time. some are due to are tiny land size. But many aren't. wild camping for example has nothing to do with land size. Its to do with archaic laws, which can be changed. As they were in Scotland.
 
i'd like to get sent to work in the American factory for a while to try it out. would love to just explore the country with a bike and a hammock tent.
 
I'd rather work in Germany, spend the weekends in America, holiday in Japan but the rest of the time in the UK.

I think Americans would annoy me, some of them are too prissy.
But having a house with more than 100 sq/m of land would be nice
 
The UK is such a squalid habitat by comparison. Terrible for any outdoors person, the awful weather, lack of land and stupid countryside rules and regulations mean many outdoors activities like horse riding are impractical, it's so bad here you can't even spend a nice day in your garden.
 
Energize said:
The UK is such a squalid habitat by comparison. Terrible for any outdoors person, the awful weather, lack of land and stupid countryside rules and regulations mean many outdoors activities like horse riding are impractical, it's so bad here you can't even spend a nice day in your garden.
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To true.
As well as motorised sports, although that one is more to do with land size. Can't take XC motorbikes, atvs etc many places America has loads of places such equipment can be used. But then again large portions of America have nothing three.
 
I have the opposite problem, my employer wants me to move to San Francisco and I don't want to go.
 
I'd love an American adventure, the vast outdoor expanses really appeal along with the amazing scenery and general lebensraum :eek:.

The UK is too populous relative to its land mass. Every you go you feel stifled and like you can barely move your elbows because the next person is too close to you.

It's also a bit grotty and the weather is tiresome.
 
Glaucus said:
Weather, landscape, landmass, laws
Many reason why America is both much better and much worse than the uk, it just depends which parts you rate highly.

Us criminal system and laws absolutely suck, but that's unlikely to affect me, so comes down low. Where weather, land size etc comes very high up on the list.
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Justice systems sucks, healthcare systems is about the worst in the developed world. Weather and landscape are variable. America is bigger than the UK but, as I pointed out above, Canada is the better choice. All the 'advantages' of America without the disadvantages, like everybody having a gun for example.

As Fox eludes to above America is a nice place with epic wilderness ruined by being an upstart young country that hasn't yet found her feet.

Moses said:
I lived in Finland for a year. The weather was okay, but the light (or lack of it!) in winter was a bit lame. It wasn't dark 24/7 or anything, given I was in Helsinki, but days got pretty short/it never felt like the Sun had come up some days.
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Light almost 24/7 in summer though to balance that out. Plus chock full of pretty Nordic ladies too. Wins over America for me.
 
Clipsey said:
I pay about $40 a month for 30mb unlimited. There are a lot cheaper plans but with 6mb line for instance.
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Cheers - I was basing my question on a BBC article I read a while back: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24528383

For instance, at high speeds of 45 Mbps and over, the OECD report has the US ranked 30th out of 33 countries, with an average price of $90 a month.
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Article would seem to imply that in San Francisco it's $100 a month for non fibre. Ouch :eek: Good to know it's not that bad everywhere.
 
I think like anywhere you live (like was said by someone else, the grass is always greener) you move somewhere and it's all good. You like X Y Z about the place, but A B C really drives you nuts after a while.

The UK annoyed the hell out of me. The whiny attitude, the doom and gloom and really I just wanted to try somewhere new. France has it's plus points. I get cheap wine and good price Champagne. I'm close to the alps (or close enough) that I can go for weekends.
The processes and systems though... **** MY ARM. They're backwards! Everything is so arse about face for so many processes. You can't pay online for a lot of stuff, or you have to go in to a post office and pay bills with CASH! Everything is late. You're lucky if your post turns up. Taxi drivers are useless (if you get a taxi). I was once told (I live like 3km from the airport) that, having flown for 12hrs, I should walk home as it's only 3km and it was a waste of his time taking me.
Switzerland is beautiful. So much to explore and fantastic unspoilt scenery. But they're the opposite. Process mental. Anal about EVERYTHING. You'll get fined 80CHF if you leave your bin out a day early (a mate got this as he was going away and left it out).
I had a full on argument with someone over not turning my engine off while waiting for someone as it was 35c and I had my kids in the car and the aircon on. He demanded I stopped polluting the planet.
They're on time for everything though... :p

But anywhere you stay/live for long enough and the little things start to annoy you. Anywhere. I don't know anyone that would say that everything about where they live is perfect. It's not how we're wired but you work out what is important to you and make a compromise.
 
I've always wanted to move to America. But I think there is a massive difference between living there and holidaying there. thats what most of us dont see, when we are on holiday we are getting the 'best' bits of it. Florida for example nice weather, to hot for me in summer, but can you imagine having to go to work in those temp's.
On the otherside, I liked Portland and Salem in Oregon, but again there are some rough parts overthere.
Have a mate who has worked in North Carolina and now is in SanFran as a teacher he likes it but the last time we spoke he was on about returning to the UK.

I have my own company but not enough money to relocate over there unfortunately. I think for us it will be save up and have nice holidays over there and maybe purchase a villa or something in the very distant future.
 
V-Spec said:
GL getting into the US,

Unless you're a brain surgeon, pop star, someone of a very specific and rare skill - or very rich with business interests, the easiest way is to go on holiday - give $10k to some trailer trash and marry her..

The next best way is to move to canada first, then move to the US from there.
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As long as you've got a degree in a useful subject then getting into the US really isn't that hard. You don't need to be a brain surgeon, you just need to work for a company that has an office in the US and ask for a transfer. It can be a slow process but you don't have to marry a floozy you met in Vegas to do it.
 
Glaucus said:
Yep, far less restrictions on many many laws including planning permission. Wilderness areas etc.
In fact most the world has less strict laws than us on such things.
In Europe if you own land, you have a right to live on it. Uk you don't.
Most countries allow wild camping, uk doesn't

And a 101 laws on a similar theme. Part of its due to our tiny land amount, but most of them are just stupid.
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Actually you are allowed to wild camp in Scotland. I enjoyed my holidays in America but always knew it would not be my cup of tea to live. New Zealand all the way ;)
 
Yeah this thread crops up fairly frequently, I know a decent number of people who have got transfers over to the US mainly through working in professional roles, consultancy, pharma, law, banking - once you get to be fairly experienced it's pretty easy to ask for a transfer as a lot of people at that level are settled with family in the UK etc so there's normally quite a lot of opportunity within a big company if you are willing to re-locate.
 
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