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Nvidia's GTC 2014 Thread

Nope, nothing wrong or Jensen would surely have told everyone. The fact that unified memory, announced in November as being a Maxwell thing, is now missing from Maxwell completely, and that subsequent offerings have all disappeared and unified memory dropped 2 years between November and now.
 
Ah some more excellent trolling from Semi-Accurate. Volta was a leaked name, it could have been a place holder. It looks like Maxwell will be followed by a refresh in 2015, possibly the placeholder name Volta simply going by another name, like Maxwell with stacked vram but not other tech. Then the full new architecture of Pascal in 2016. By showing Pascal Nvidia were showing just how much of a leap there will be in the next couple of years.. Showing they a strong plan for the future..

Obviously Pascal has that SA guy bit worried. I like that he's been trolling Nvidia for years and years but the whole time Nvidia keep delivering excellent products and maintain the highest market share. Despite all his doom and gloom mongering Nvidia yet live.

Only one thing worse than a SA article, and that's quoting a semi-accurate article..
 
That is some fairly desperate backpeddling. Jensen has spoken about Volta, it was scheduled and on roadmaps, it's disappeared and a new architecture appeared a year later than the previous one was due.

Oh wait, no it was just a leaked name... on official roadmaps that have been shown on stage with Jensen talking about them. Which is it a placeholder, a leaked name, and which of those fits with a placeholder slipping a year?
 
Boomstick777 said:
Ah some more excellent trolling from Semi-Accurate. Volta was a leaked name, it could have been a place holder. It looks like Maxwell will be followed by a refresh in 2015, possibly the placeholder name Volta simply going by another name, like Maxwell with stacked vram but not other tech. Then the full new architecture of Pascal in 2016. By showing Pascal Nvidia were showing just how much of a leap there will be in the next couple of years.. Showing they a strong plan for the future..

Obviously Pascal has that SA guy bit worried. I like that he's been trolling Nvidia for years and years but the whole time Nvidia keep delivering excellent products and maintain the highest market share. Despite all his doom and gloom mongering Nvidia yet live.

Only one thing worse than a SA article, and that's quoting a semi-accurate article..
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Blokes a complete *****. You know he sat there when Denver didn't show on the roadmap and spat half his take-away out, lurching over the keyboard to start writing that dribble up. Because there's not a chance he's actually there, because nobody likes him. For someone who dislikes NV so much he really does like to be the first in line to get his write-ups out the door.

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I keep forgetting that to be interested in technology you have to want to buy it. This is why if there was ever a story about space travel I immediately turned it off... because I can't afford to buy a space shuttle. I don't watch F1, because I can't afford an F1 car, etc, etc.

What kind of ridiculous argument is that... oh wait, I stated it didn't I, ridiculous.

PS:- it was nice of you to admit that what you do is "attack" me, and that you go out of your way to do it, rather than discuss the point, discuss the people making the point. Who cares that the roadmap changed, you don't like Charlie, or me, so talk about not liking Charlie or me, not the roadmap change. Same old same old.

Nvidia have been talking about Denver for like 5 years, the real supposedly first proper Denver only chip, Parker, disappears... but it's absolutely not worth pointing out at all, it's a non issue. We shouldn't discuss or talk about that, just talk about who pointed it out.


For all you know that conversation finishes in a year with finfet's at TSMC don't work about 500Mhz, don't work on GPU's, the entire process failed and AMD/TSMC and anyone else planning to use 16nm is screwed. Who knows, but the only Tegra that specifically named itself using Denver cpu's disappeared and it's a very worthwhile talking point regardless of how much you dislike Charlie. If it's an Nvidia problem, a TSMC problem, whatever it is, it's a very big talking point, with a very tame keynote speech it was probably the biggest talking point.
 
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You don't have a point, though. That's half the problem. You're berating a road map. The technology isn't here yet, and last years wasn't either. Road maps change, companies change direction. Most people don't care why at a press conference. They just want to know what is happening. If you put every change in direction on a road map it would look like your pot noodles you had for dinner earlier.

You're looking for something that isn't even there, and it's making me want to go to sleep. The extent of how much you disagree with everything that was said about tegra recently, why would you have an interest in a company that apparently is this gigantic inefficiency. I'll tell you why, it's because you read too much crap on the internet. It's that simple.

You don't have to like it in order to talk about it but if you're seriously that bothered that Denver isn't on the roadmap, one would only assume you had a keen interest in it. I don't think most people are particularly bothered on project code names. They're still a way off, and they will be what they are when they get here. You'd of said the same thing if Denver was canned, but only it wasn't...it was volta or similar under a different code name.

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Parker was missing from the latest road map, the thing Nvidia have been building up to for 5+ years, the only thing on their roadmap that was specifically Denver, now nothing lists Denver cpu's as a feature. Volta ALSO disappeareed.

As to why I'm bothered, you say I'm bothered. I'm looking for something that isn't there, yes, that's how you find things that change.

As above, you are already presuming seemingly that the only issue that could make them cancel it is Nvidia screwing up, I however aren't as cynical as you over how often Nvidia screw up. It's perfectly possible it's an indicator that 16nm is dead and burried... but wait, you didn't think about that because why DISCUSS something genuinely interesting when you can go ultra defensive because someone used the word Nvidia... and then attack whoever dares say anything.
 
Like Frosty says roadmap's can change, especially on leaked unannounced architecture. I hope AMD's roadmap's change as well because right now they have 32nm Piledriver all the way through 2015..
 
Besides Pascal is clearly Volta - just changed drastically enough to warrant the name change.

Things change in this industry - really is no need for the song and dance and the fail finger pointing.
 
Roadmaps imo a re like a dream of where we think we are going But as tech changes new stuff is invented/discovered our map changes so its a constantly evolving thing.
But i also see no harm in asking why it changed as often that which we discard turns out to be useful to others or even ourselfs as someone else's idea's can take that idea we moved away from in a new direction
Only have to look at OGL etc for this
 
Getting back on to Pascal for a sec..

I think people overlooked the significance.

Between five and 12 times the performance of PCI Express (NVLink). Stacked memory to offer over 1000GB/s memory Bandwidth. Increase memory capacity by 2.5x and increase the energy efficiency by 4x. 1/3 size of PCI express.. In 2 years from now.

That is some awesome spec. AMD are likely to have something similar in the pipeline in terms of performance, the potential for PC gaming is ridiculous.. If the consoles look underpowered now, imagine after these launch.
 
So they rename a couple of projects and suddenly the sky is falling? Get a grip Charlie.

The K1 also has a denver flavoured version coming and that is still listed up there.

Edit; according to ubergizmo, nvidia have confirmed that volta is not cancelled, they worked out a way to do stacked dram sooner, so effectively Pascal is a maxwell refresh with stacked dram, volta will still be coming after that
 
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Drooooooool
 
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Getting back on to Pascal for a sec..

I think people overlooked the significance.

Between five and 12 times the performance of PCI Express (NVLink). Stacked memory to offer over 1000GB/s memory Bandwidth. Increase memory capacity by 2.5x and increase the energy efficiency by 4x. 1/3 size of PCI express.. In 2 years from now.

That is some awesome spec. AMD are likely to have something similar in the pipeline in terms of performance, the potential for PC gaming is ridiculous.. If the consoles look underpowered now, imagine after these launch.
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Yep, I am wondering if we will see a return to the days of AMD & Nvidia proprietary mobos. :)
 
Wow Nvidias future making PC GPU's looks very bright indeed now with these latest announcements & having opted out of making console GPU's for cost Nvidia are well positioned to not only eliminate their competitors but also dominate the same way Intel have dominated CPU's for so long ;)
 
Orangey said:
Yep, I am wondering if we will see a return to the days of AMD & Nvidia proprietary mobos. :)
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Could well see something like that. Also this Nvidia / IBM / ARM partnership.. Maybe by 2016, Windows won't necessarily be needed, if Linux / SteamOS see growth.. Would an AMD / Intel chip necessarily be needed?
 
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