Why is the makeup important? If a child grows up with two loving parents, why does it matter if they are of opposite or same genders?
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Why is the makeup important? If a child grows up with two loving parents, why does it matter if they are of opposite or same genders?
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Indeed I've seen some pretty appalling heterosexual couples who are crap parents. Being good parents is something that is much more complex than gender.
If it is not the norm does that make it wrong?
Owning a Lamborghini is not the norm.
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That is why the second point i made it clear that we had a differences of opinion. The first point is obviously fact that should go without saying, it is only because of liberal brainwashing that you received that would make you think the invention of marriage was some sort of mystery.
Firstly because they can not biologically have children. Which is quite important factor when discussing the continuation of the species from a utilitarian perspective.
Secondly the argument is that children require both parents to become a well rounded individual. Of course there will be exceptions but those will usually be explained by parents being irresponsible and not fit to be parents etc. Just because there are irresponsible parents does not mean that we should throw the baby out with the bath water and forget about the importance of the natural family.
End of day i am not against homosexuals being in relationship and adopting children, especially if the alternative is being raised in a home or worse. But i do not think that it should be encouraged or become the norm. In my opinion it should be seen as a last resort.
When you say it is obviously fact that marriage was created solely for children, do you have evidence to back that up?
As a species are we struggling to maintain our numbers sufficiently for this to be an issue?
Do you have any evidence that a straight person is more well-rounded and responsible than a gay person? Do you have any evidence that a baby brought up by straight parents is in any way more priveleged than a baby brought up by a same-sex couple?
Nope
No it isn't. In the UK the majority of weddings are now civil weddings and have no religious involvement at all. This has been the case for the last 20 years or so.
Great argument, but wrong. What if the position is 'I don't want it in the guise you are presenting it in, they should have equal rights' or somesuch?
There are always reasons for something. Sometimes deplorable, sometimes reasonable.
Do you have any facts to back this up, because all the peer reviewed science and statistics shows you are wrong.
If it's fact, then surely you can prove it, no?
Same-sex couples have the option to adopt, and in the case of females, artificial insemination is an alternative route. This argument makes no sense in a discussion about same-sex marriage, however: regardless of whether not it is legal, we will still have same-sex couples. That will not change, yet I see no issue with our ability to continue the species at present...
I see no issue with a child being raised by a same-sex couple instead of a heterosexual couple. I don't see any evidence which suggests children are worse off with loving homosexual parents than they are with loving heterosexual parents. Heck, plenty of children grow up and develop just fine with only a single parent of either gender. I just can't see why this is an issue so long as the children are taken care of.
I disagree entirely, it shouldn't be seen as a last resort. We have a great number of children in need of adoption/foster care - we should be looking to place them with the best families for their needs, regardless of their sexual orientation.
Proposition 8 was much simpler though, it was pretty much all about denying gay people the same rights as straight people and nothing about equal rights in another form.
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You done it, you convinced me the natural family is pointless. I am going to have children with as many different women/men as i can and forget about them. Let the state raise the children i say. Who needs a family so old and traditional and its had its day.
As the guy from Jurassic park said, nature will find a way.
not heard of adoption? you know, the same thing that hetero couples do when they cannot naturally conceive.
OK, I confess I didn't know much about it. That wasn't what the post in question was saying though
I still don't know what 'the natural family' is. Marriage and family itself is a man-made concept.
I have the wife and 2.4 children, so you don't need to argue the point with me. In that respect I am the norm, but that doesn't mean I feel the need to impinge on someone else's quality of life because I don't like their choices.
As the guy from Jurassic park said, nature will find a way.
Whilst I hold that to be true, I'm not sure of its relevance here. Is this an effort to back away from the thread?
I think there's research that children are happier(bad word) when they have same sex partners
e; Must say that this is likely to be due to that 9/10 they are adopted so they've now got a stable life and loving parents.
e; Must say that this is likely to be due to that 9/10 they are adopted so they've now got a stable life and loving parents.
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Do you think that single mom's or father can raise children just as well as a household with a mom and a dad?
The answer here is a definitive YES
On average does a single parent do it as well as a couple? Probably not. But that certainly doesn't mean they can't