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if a postman here in NI opened someones door and left a parcel the bomb squad would be out, guess that why they don't leave parcels on doorsteps here either 
Delivery man inside the house...
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It's one thing to have delivery placed just inside an open door, but entirely different if the delivery person is checking to see if the door can be opened using the handle and then placing an item inside.
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As a delivery driver myself, if you can't be bothered to answer the door, then i can't be bothered to deliver your shizz!
I fell on that potato and it just went in, honest doc.
Delivery man: "I have a... package... for delivery" *winks
Mrs wndsr: "come in, but be quick, my hubby is downstairs"
wndsr: "OcUK halp, postman opened my door!"
Fin
I was talking to a mate the other week who works in A+E and she said the amount of things people accidently fall on is amazing, especially since a condom has usually fallen on the object first.
It's just far too many accidental falls to be true!
If I ever wind up in A&E with a Barbie Doll in my arse, I'm just going to give it to them straight "yeah, it was a massive fap which went a bit far". People need to take ownership of that ****. You look far more ridiculous by trying to deny it all.
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wndsr to wife "did you see what the postm...... why are you wearing no clothes?"
Mrs wndsr "they...uh.....fell off"
wndsr "k"
As understandable as not wanting people letting themselves into your home is, it isn't breaking and entering.
It would be classed as 'trespass to land'. The only defence the delivery driver would have is if the unlocked door was implied permission to enter the property.
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GitThey lock their doors in Liverpool don't they Pavey
DeyDoDohDon'tDehDoh.
I thought that the "breaking" part indicated the breaking of the spatial plane of your abode? No actual breaking had to occur, it was just the fact that they stepped over the threshold and trespassed.
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This part of the story is very weak and not believable.
If 'breaking' is classed as entering your place, then what is the 'entering' classed as?
I'm also in the belief that breaking applies to a locked property. So this isn't breaking and entering, just trespassing.
The common law burglary (we're not discussing burglary I know, but still, it explains it a bit) definition is thus:
Breaking can be either actual, such as by forcing open a door, or constructive, such as by fraud or threats. Breaking does not require that anything be "broken" in terms of physical damage occurring. A person who has permission to enter part of a house, but not another part, commits a breaking and entering when they use any means to enter a room where they are not permitted, so long as the room was not open to enter.
Entering can involve either physical entry by a person or the insertion of an instrument with which to remove property. Insertion of a tool to gain entry may not constitute entering by itself. Note that there must be a breaking and an entering for common law burglary. Breaking without entry or entry without breaking is not sufficient for common law burglary.
Apparently it is unlawful entry if the door is closed but unlocked. Either way, regardless of definition, it is still a crime and I don't get why there are so many here that think it is ok for a delivery person to open your front door, walk into your property, leave a parcel on the floor, and then let themselves out again. I don't really care for definition in terms of law. That is still totally wrong in most people's eyes, regardless of what took place. I can't believe that some here think that it is an acceptable practice.