Peaches Geldoff Dead

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phonemonkey said:
I deal with death on a daily basis at work. I've consoled grieving parents who have lost their infant son, listened to the wife of 50 years wonder how she is going to sleep alone for the first time ever, and calmed down a young man who had been in a car crash killing everyone else in the car so that I can get him to begin CPR. Alone and in the dark. I've also dealt with fatal drug overdoses.

I never know either the caller or the patient, and I never meet them. I don't grieve for the patients we lose, but I do empathise with the very real loss felt by those who knew them. That's why I take a minute after calls like that, and why I took a minute yesterday when I heard about the death of Peaches Geldoff. It's about respecting the depth of the loss felt by those left behind in my mind.

What ever the cause of death, and however much a person might have chosen to live their life in public, there is a real family feeling real grief. Have some respect for them and hold off the jokes I say.

How would you feel if you googled your mums name sometime after her death and found a thread similar to this about her?
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Good post man.
 
I feel emotionally upset that the Peaches tragedy has taken the limelight from Mickey Rooneys death, people can be so evil.
 
phonemonkey said:
I deal with death on a daily basis at work.
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I also work in the Inquest team and see lots of death on a daily basis.
Today I've been reading the written account of a Mother who's daughter took her own life and the letter gets sent to the Coroner.
I really don't know how people can be so heartless.

What we should do is write down all the names of the children in this thread and when/if they make a "My ....... died today" thread we can tell them we don't care.
 
Richdog said:
She was a celebrity. Anyway, the "but lots of people died today what makes this so special" is just something repeated by people with the IQ of an apricot. She was famous to an extent, was in the public eye, and thus the media covers it. It's that simple.
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The media publishes it because there is an appetite for it. Why is there an appetite for it? Well, social conditioning, mainly. At some point it is fair to ask the question, why are we, on a personal level, more interested in this person? How many of us even knew who she was before she died?

This isn't about the media covering this death - that much was inevitable. This is about why we react differently ourselves. Why was this thread created? Why do people feel the need to put into words how tragic they feel it is? Or to defend this famous dead person they barely knew existed?

Peaches was a stranger to virtually all of us. Had she not been famous, and given that the thread wasn't started by one of her relatives, interest in the thread would have been minimal.

All this thread demonstrates is that we have been conditioned to elevate celebrities and give them special treatment.
 
FoxEye said:
All this thread demonstrates is that we have been conditioned to elevate celebrities and give them special treatment.
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It demonstrates empathy for the family of the deceased just like we would for you if you also had a bereavement.
I really don't get how you don't understand this.
I would say that nobody in this thread who has given out an RIP actually cares about the celeb status of Peaches or her Dad but is thinking about the children, husband, Father and young mother.
 
Dimple said:
It demonstrates empathy for the family of the deceased just like we would for you if you also had a bereavement.
I really don't get how you don't understand this.
I would say that nobody in this thread who has given out an RIP actually cares about the celeb status of Peaches or her Dad but is thinking about the children, husband, Father and young mother.
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No it doesn't, as I was called out earlier for also not sharing the same opinion as most others in this thread and I've suffered a personal loss a few days ago, yet no one mentioned that, just attacked my view instead. People seem to think that they know a celeb because they read about every boring facet of their lives 24/7, yet its just not that simple. Mourn the other 1600 people who died in the UK today and the loss to their families, or just cherry pick this one because shes been on the news.
 
James J said:
No it doesn't, as I was called out earlier for also not sharing the same opinion as most others in this thread and I've suffered a personal loss a few days ago, yet no one mentioned that, just attacked my view instead. People seem to think that they know a celeb because they read about every boring facet of their lives 24/7, yet its just not that simple. Mourn the other 1600 people who died in the UK today and the loss to their families, or just cherry pick this one because shes been on the news.
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It is that simple, really. A celebrity is somebody "known" to a lot of people. It's hardly surprising, therefor, that a few people are going to say "RIP" and such. You're the one making a big deal out of nothing. <shrug>
 
the_chicco said:
Well said.

What a selfish girl (if it was an overdose). I'm sorry but people that take their lives in this manner don't deserve them in the first place, especially when you have kids and a husband. They are your priority, first and foremost, not whether you have dealt with your druggie mother O/Ding as a kid. I have seen first hand 'normal' individuals go through some truly horrific events and come out the other side with the glass still half full so to speak. Why is it these 'celebrities' can't seem to cope. My thoughts and prayers are with the poor kids she has left behind.
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You're a ****
 
James J said:
Mourn the other 1600 people who died in the UK today and the loss to their families, or just cherry pick this one because shes been on the news.
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Would you prefer the media to never mention any people dying?
If you ever watch the News or read the media they often report on nobody's dying, in fact when I think about it way more death stories are about non celebs.
Once again your use of the word 'mourn' is taking it way over the top, people are just showing empathy.
 
Thompson_NCL said:
It's always a shame when someone young dies, but I cannot fathom why she is getting sacred cow status on OCUK. It's not like Bob Gedolf is going to be searching for a new heat-sink today, I doubt anyone with a personal relationship with her is browsing GD. It is not any more or less disrespectful to crack jokes about someone who is alive than it is someone who is dead.

If it was the Queen or someone highly regarded, I might understand the need to curtail the comments in order to stop the thread turning into an apocalyptic nightmare... but Peaches Gedolf is a relative nobody.
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I think I got a single RIP In "this instant and this moment" when my sisters bloke died age 41 of heart disease a few months back.

Then there's that guy who makes a RIP thread for his son who was a forum member, he does it every year this year his thread got closed until there was outrage ?
 
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Dimple said:
Would you prefer the media to never mention any people dying?
If you ever watch the News or read the media they often report on nobody's dying, in fact when I think about it way more death stories are about non celebs.
Once again your use of the word 'mourn' is taking it way over the top, people are just showing empathy.
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Yeah I'd actually prefer positive news instead of the completely negative crap we get fed daily.
 
Tefal said:
You're a ****
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Another eloquent well-reasoned argument from Tefal.

My view is that this thread is just another news thread, no need to over-think it. It's a shame for the family, of course, and her celebrity status will always give her death more attention than someone whose sister's husband died.

It's not a 'how many RIPs can I get' competition, it's just a different situation.

That said RIP is a flawed phrase anyway, since the concept of 'rest' or 'peace' in death is ridiculous.
 
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Participant said:
Another eloquent well-reasoned argument from Tefal.

My view is that this thread is just another news thread, no need to over-think it. It's a shame for the family, of course, and her celebrity status will always give her death more attention than someone whose sister's husband died.

It's not a 'how many RIPs can I get' competition, it's just a different situation.

That said RIP is a flawed phrase anyway, since the concept of 'rest' or 'peace' in death is ridiculous.
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hypocrite
2.

a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, especially one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.


They all come out when a celeb dies, I remember when dianna died and people I know for a fact wouldn't have been able to identify her from a royal photo acted like it was their own mum or jesus christ
 
dowie said:
She stood up well against Katie Hopkins:

http://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/the-wildest-funniest-cleverest-peaches
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holy **** that full screen is best full screen.

lol
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Turned off when she said you need a 9ft wide bed to sleep with a baby...

People have been doing it in single beds for decades without issue.
 
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