Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?

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I think the Tyrell's did it!

Don't think it was the Dawlish because they'd want recognition, don't think it was Tyrian (as part of it) as he wouldn't frame himself and the granny likes Selsa.

Plus the poison was in the pie rather than the wine surely?
 
It's been that long since I read the books in my head I convinced myself he just innocently choked so I even I was surprised at the scene :p
 
im sparticus.

oh wait wrong thing.

i think it was the wee fella who grabbed sansa and told her to run. he seemed to know what was going on.
 
Bald-Eagle22 said:
Have we actually confirmed he is dead though ?
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Well seeing as i just finished watching it just about 5 mins ago, id bloody well say he is dead or he looked dead enough to me and about time for that little blonde haired runt to finally get topped.

Now i wish someone would slit Cersei's throat from ear to ear for once.

Awesome episode though, getting better and better. Now to wait for the fall out of Joffrey's death.
 
^^ Might want to use spoiler tags

Fluke? said:
I smell Varys and/or Littlefinger up to no good here, albeit acting on behalf of a 3rd party.
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Its more Littlefinger's style, Varys plays a long game and gets other people to do his dirty work in a far more subtle fashion - not in the form of something dramatic i.e. dies a horrid death = investigation = could lead back to him (remember what he says about bodyguards, etc.).
 
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What does Baelish have to gain from killing him? He wants the Throne for himself obviously, but how does this achieve it? I don't think he has even appeared in an episode since half way though the 3rd season. I think the last time we saw him he was heading to the Vale.
 
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Malfsyde said:
What does Baelish have to gain from killing him? He wants the Throne for himself obviously, but how does this achieve it? I don't think he has even appeared in an episode since half way though the 3rd season. I think the last time we saw him he was heading to the Vale.
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Baelish is a king-maker, not a king. He knows he will never get the throne, so his best strategy is to make sure that he puts in place someone who he owns, body and soul. For example, if Ned had followed the scheme he suggested, it would have seriously damaged Ned's reputation, allowing Baelish to grab more power.

He also understands that king-maker is a lot safer than king. As to how he plans to get to that state, who knows.
 
This is very uncouth and immature of me but meh.

When Joffrey is dying you are looking at his face. A glance to the left shows a magnificent cleavage shot of Cersei. My eyes were backwards and forwards like a Federer/Nadal rally!
 
she's mad as a box of frogs. Can't say she does anything for me.

But that's more based on her character. I might see it differently in another show were she's not always such a grumpy incestuous witch.
 
Meridian said:
Baelish is a king-maker, not a king. He knows he will never get the throne, so his best strategy is to make sure that he puts in place someone who he owns, body and soul. For example, if Ned had followed the scheme he suggested, it would have seriously damaged Ned's reputation, allowing Baelish to grab more power.

He also understands that king-maker is a lot safer than king. As to how he plans to get to that state, who knows.
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That's true, but he would have to be playing a really long game to be behind it all. Tommen is next in line and if the Lannisters don't suspect the Tyrells (they should be) they will probably marry him to Margaery again. Meanwhile Petyr Baelish is kissing up to bit-players out in the middle of nowhere.

Actually if The Lannisters still suspect Tyrion, that might put Sansa at threat for Baelish to swoop in for some shenanigans again. Hmm.
 
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While Cersei certainly suspects Tyrion and maybe Jamie too, I would be surprised if Tywin did.

Tywin knows that Tyrion would not risk his neck for so little gain. I doubt Joffrey would have ever executed Tyrion. Tywin can still control him and wouldn't have let it happen.

Book readers are probably laughing at me, but that's my take on the TV series.
 
Jamie already has by denying his fathers order to leave the capital and go back to Casterly Rock.

Jamie is his own man and has a strict code. People see him as the kingslayer, the very opposite of loyal, but we already know thanks to his heart to heart with brienne of tarth that he slayed the king in the name of the greater good.

Jamie has shown that deep down, he wants to do the right thing. Unlike his father who only ever wants to further the familys legacy.
 
Fr0dders said:
Jamie is his own man and has a strict code. People see him as the kingslayer, the very opposite of loyal, but we already know thanks to his heart to heart with brienne of tarth that he slayed the king in the name of the greater good.

Jamie has shown that deep down, he wants to do the right thing. Unlike his father who only ever wants to further the familys legacy.
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I disagree with all of that:p...lets just say I doubt Jaime's sincerity.

And on the point of him disobeying Tywin, I was very disappointed with the way Tywin seemed to just not care. Charles Dance is the most badly misjudged portrayal in it imo(apart from Stannis, though that seems to be on purpose). He seems to be permanently amused at something:confused:
 
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