David Moyes disgracefully sacked

FrankJH · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:02

Gilly said:
manyoo did (I suppose, given your post?)

Clearly a team out of position however much your affiliation makes you believe otherwise

Admiral Huddy · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:03

G|mp said:
Rooney has just signed a 5 year contract, RvP will be going nowhere if Van Gaal gets the job, the problem with RVP and a lot of players this season is the fact they didn't think much of Moyes or his methods.

Contracts mean nothing. Asset protection for the club but that's it.. Wasn't Bale 1 year in on a 4 year deal?

edit - yep

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/18613479

dmcg · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:03

lol leeds

FrankJH · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:05

Admiral Huddy said:
Contracts mean nothing. Asset protection for the club but that's it.. Wasn't Bale 1 year in on a 4 year deal?

edit - yep

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/18613479

Clearly in this case the prestige of RM counted for a great deal (even with Utd offering to pay significantly more to Spurs if reports are true)

Admiral Huddy · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:10

my point is contracts are broken and mean nothing.

Robbo · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:15

Sky Sports:

We understand negotiations between David Moyes and Ed Woodward started very early this morning. Richard Bevan, the chief executive of the League Managers' Association has been here, negotiating on behalf of David Moyes regarding his settlement but we understand a compensation deal has not yet been agreed.

Hm.

G|mp · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:16

Admiral Huddy said:
Contracts mean nothing. Asset protection for the club but that's it.. Wasn't Bale 1 year in on a 4 year deal?

edit - yep

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/18613479

If someone are willing to pay 80 million for him, I won't lose any sleep over it.

Admiral Huddy · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:17

G|mp said:
If someone are willing to pay 80 million for him, I won't lose any sleep over it.

Fair point

G|mp · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:20

Admiral Huddy said:
my point is contracts are broken and mean nothing.

Your original point was that we are going to struggle to attract players because we have failed to finish in the top 4.

Take your point about contracts mean nothing, attracting big players doesn't mean you have to be a top 4 team, you as a Spurs fan should know that.

Were Liverpool top 4 when they signed Torres or Suarez? Or were they attracted to the aura of the club?

Talbs13 · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:23

Disgraceful.

3 games left of the season...at least have the decency and respect to let him complete a full season and then make a decision.

I think ANY manager would have struggled taking over from Ferguson. He inherited a **** poor-ageing team.

One of the biggest clubs in the world in a downward spiral. A real shame.

MikeTheNative · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:26

G|mp said:
Your original point was that we are going to struggle to attract players because we have failed to finish in the top 4.

Take your point about contracts mean nothing, attracting big players doesn't mean you have to be a top 4 team, you as a Spurs fan should know that.

Were Liverpool top 4 when they signed Torres or Suarez? Or were they attracted to the aura of the club?

They got to a Champions League final the season before Torres singed, I believe. Suarez, while talented, was also a bit of a risk, with his known temper issues especially early on. I don't think anyone anticipated that he would become, arguably, the best striker in the world either.

G|mp · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:30

MikeTheNative said:
They got to a Champions League final the season before Torres singed, I believe. Suarez, while talented, was also a bit of a risk, with his known temper issues especially early on. I don't think anyone anticipated that he would become, arguably, the best striker in the world either.

My point is that it doesn't matter where you are in the league following one bad season, Man Utd are a far bigger draw than say Spurs/Everton.

That's not off the wall thinking, it's reality.

atpbx · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:35

MikeTheNative said:
I'm surprised that they sacked him now, I thought they would at least wait until the season is over.

Its not that surprising.

There is a good chance 5 of the top 10 jobs in European football will be available in the summer.
Leave it till then and United will be fighting it out with other clubs for the same few top managers.

Getting it done now gives them a month head start on tying someone down, I for one wouldn't be putting my house on Van Gaal getting the job, the timing with the world cup just doesn't go in his favor.

G|mp · 22 Apr 2014 at 14:37

atpbx said:
Its not that surprising.

There is a good chance 5 of the top 10 jobs in European football will be available in the summer.
Leave it till then and United will be fighting it out with other clubs for the same few top managers.

Getting it done now gives them a month head start on tying someone down, I for one wouldn't be putting my house on Van Gaal getting the job, the timing with the world cup just doesn't go in his favor.

I'm not so sure, there will be very little movement while the WC is on anyway, with most of the business being done when it finishes.

mmj_uk · 22 Apr 2014 at 15:01

If they bring in a replacement during the next week or two it gives the new manager 2-3 games and several training sessions to see what he has to work with before the players go off on their holidays.

Robert1986 · 22 Apr 2014 at 15:03

mmj_uk · 22 Apr 2014 at 15:06

Talbs13 said:
I think ANY manager would have struggled taking over from Ferguson. He inherited a **** poor-ageing team.

If they're so rubbish how do you explain them having the best away record in the league and giving Bayern Munich a fairly decent game over two legs?

Stretch · 22 Apr 2014 at 15:14

G|mp said:
My point is that it doesn't matter where you are in the league following one bad season, Man Utd are a far bigger draw than say Spurs/Everton.

That's not off the wall thinking, it's reality.

Maybe, but the type of players Utd need to attract are unlikely to go to Spurs or Everton anyway. It City, Chelsea, PSG, Madrid, Barca, Bayern who are the first choice destination for much of the new talent. A lack of CL football just make a tough job significantly tougher.

Utd are still and attractive club, but landing top players will require a well connected manager who can convince players they can turn the club round within a season.

Purdy · 22 Apr 2014 at 15:20

Devastating day for football

Shouldve been done by Christmas latest, it's a bit different cycling through managers who are nearly winning you the league and CL in their first year and sacking a clueless excuse machine who plays garbage football. United made a big mistake not getting rid sooner things couldn't have gone worse

G|mp · 22 Apr 2014 at 15:23

Stretch said:
Maybe, but the type of players Utd need to attract are unlikely to go to Spurs or Everton anyway. It City, Chelsea, PSG, Madrid, Barca, Bayern who are the first choice destination for much of the new talent. A lack of CL football just make a tough job significantly tougher.

Utd are still and attractive club, but landing top players will require a well connected manager who can convince players they can turn the club round within a season.

Well no not really, we're a 7th placed Premier League club, we are competing with Spurs and Everton for players to break into the top 4, it's the likes of Liverpool/City/Chelsea that will be competing for your A list players.

Your second point is more like it, we need a manager who can sell his idea of where the club is going to players, not the idea of playing for the club, that sells itself.