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290x or 780ti - First world problems

Ive had a few 290/290x and had nothing but problems with them, and they were both reference and aftermarket variants. From crashes/driver recovered from said error/heat/noise/low fps drops for no apparent reason, hell even OcUK have said how poor the 290 range has been as a whole.
After 4 months of Amd toil and trouble went and bought a 780TI and not looked back, installed the driver and well to be honest job done, not had to mess about since, no msi afterburner needed for fan speed control or to make sure the card is performing at its best ie lock the performance to 100% card use etc.
And im no fan boy this is my first nvidia card for a very long time, ive had Amd cards since way back to the 9700 Pro days.

look here for a thread of 290s and what failed and what hasnt at that point in time.
 
For me, there isn't much between them in power but when you start to look closer, you see what one does and the other doesn't. For instance, AMD have Mantle and that will give you a few more fps in BF4. Mantle is also out for Thief but Thief doesn't seem to give any benefits. The other thing that AMD have over nVidia is TrueAudio - Sounds can be done well but again, Thief is the only game to have TrueAudio in at the moment.

For nVidia, you have exclusives like PhysX (real time Physics that bring more aesthetics/eye candy to some of the games (Batman/Borderlands 2 are great examples of PhysX done well). nVidia also has GameWorks, which is another eye candy bonus. ShadowPlay is fantastic and allows you to record your game footage as you play - Playing BF4 and having a superb round and owning everyone but didn't record? No problem, hit the designated key and it can record your last 20 minutes of gaming (fantastic addition).
 
Gregster said:
For me, there isn't much between them in power but when you start to look closer, you see what one does and the other doesn't. For instance, AMD have Mantle and that will give you a few more fps in BF4. Mantle is also out for Thief but Thief doesn't seem to give any benefits. The other thing that AMD have over nVidia is TrueAudio - Sounds can be done well but again, Thief is the only game to have TrueAudio in at the moment.

For nVidia, you have exclusives like PhysX (real time Physics that bring more aesthetics/eye candy to some of the games (Batman/Borderlands 2 are great examples of PhysX done well). nVidia also has GameWorks, which is another eye candy bonus. ShadowPlay is fantastic and allows you to record your game footage as you play - Playing BF4 and having a superb round and owning everyone but didn't record? No problem, hit the designated key and it can record your last 20 minutes of gaming (fantastic addition).
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thanks i didnt know this lol

is it the ALT F10?
 
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Now the 780Ti's are dropping down to around £480 I would pick one of them over anything else tbh, it's a fair bit quicker than the 780 (Non Ti) and has improved power balancing for overclocking. Is faster than 290X as well, the gap has grown even further with latest drivers. It uses less power than 290X as well. Have tried them all GTX 780Ti is my fav by far. Could pick up one now and another later when prices drop even further.

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Hasn't Gibbo suggested that they are trying to work something out with Nvidia for early May? Might be price drops or some form of deal, might be worth waiting until then.
 
atomic7431 said:
Ive had a few 290/290x and had nothing but problems with them, and they were both reference and aftermarket variants. From crashes/driver recovered from said error/heat/noise/low fps drops for no apparent reason, hell even OcUK have said how poor the 290 range has been as a whole.
After 4 months of Amd toil and trouble went and bought a 780TI and not looked back, installed the driver and well to be honest job done, not had to mess about since, no msi afterburner needed for fan speed control or to make sure the card is performing at its best ie lock the performance to 100% card use etc.
And im no fan boy this is my first nvidia card for a very long time, ive had Amd cards since way back to the 9700 Pro days.

look here for a thread of 290s and what failed and what hasnt at that point in time.
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PEBKAC
 
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Do us all a favour op and get a 780ti, then we don't have to read BS comments regarding AMD performance-especially the 'OcUk said' and Thief has no Mantle benefits-better frame output to screen never mind the 10% performance gain.

:p
 
thefogo said:
AMD have better price/performance but Nvidia for me have always been more reliable, at least for hardware.
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You mean like the issues with the G8* series GPUs which cost them at least $200 million? :p

I have had a few dozen AMD/ATI and Nvidia cards and going by by the cards my mates had they are all much of a sameness when it comes to reliabilty at least in the sub £250 market. At times you will get certain models by certain OEMs having issues. An example is MSI and their constant problems,especially with the fans on many of their cards leaking oil,or companies like Palit cheaping out on VRM cooling for example.
 
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thefogo said:
^I've had 6 faulty AMD cards and no faulty Nvidia cards. I'm just speaking from my experiences.
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Between me and a few mates over the last 8 to 10 years we have at least 50 to 60 AMD/ATI and Nvidia cards of various kinds.

I have had one 6800LE suffer from the capacitor plague problem,but I replaced it before it actually started to cause problems.

My reference 8800GTS 512MB went kaput in under two years. My mate had a MSI HD6870 start having issues after a year and half and that was because it got a magnetic ball bearing caught in it(don't ask).

Everything else we had has lasted years. I still have an ancient 6600LE and a 8500GT which works OK for example.

Going by the 100s of builds I have helped people with on various forums over nearly 8 years and the feedback I got from them,only very few cards have had issues.

However,most of my experience has been of the sub £250 market.

I cannot comment too much personally on high end cards.

However,the biggest failures I saw were with mobile Nvidia cards of the G8* generation. I knew of at least a dozen instances of laptops with one of them eventually failing. However,my desktop 8500GT with a large aftermarket heatsink was fine. Go figure.

However,Gibbo said that the GTX780/R9 series had under 5% failure rate.
 
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Thanks for all the debate guys, some really useful information provided. I have a lot to think over, although I'm now seriously considering the 780 / 780ti.

Really can't wait to get building!
 
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