Pharmaceutical Companies

Funny how it's impossible to use cannabis legally, but it's ok to kill half dead people with chemo.

I say this without irony, the truth is out there, google it **************
 
Energize said:
No they don't. That only happens to people who actually are conspiracy theorists.
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Being a 'conspiracy theorist' doesn't automatically make one a loonie. I'd suggest believing no conspiracy has ever happened in the history of mankind is probably more whacky.

America for example was built on conspiracy, those people didn't all by chance decide one day to go to war against The British. There was planning and conspiring all the way.

The problem with conspiracy theorists comes when they have an automatic pre-set ideology and then use confirmation bias to re-inforce this (i.e All Governments are evil and everything they do is a lie and I'll prove it (akin to Alex Jones)
 
Pharmaceutical Companies you say? :eek:

Are designed to make you ill, how on earth can they make money if no one is sick? :rolleyes:

Just follow the money like everything else! :mad:
 
Corruption happens in Big Anything. And the only people who whine about rich people are those too lazy to accept they could be rich too if they worked harder!
 
Why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why do they have to change the shape & colour of their pills every time I get a new batch?
What is the reason for this?
I have them bi-monthly and for my first month of teh last lot 4 of my pills were the same shape & size which by the time I realised this, I could have been taking them all in the wrong order but I'm not dead yet.
 
Dimple said:
Why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why do they have to change the shape & colour of their pills every time I get a new batch?
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They don't. The pharmacy are probably just giving you a different brand.

Tablets and capsules normally have clear markings on them so you can't mix them up.
 
Dimple has a fair point imo. Medicines have to be prescribed not by manufactured name but a standard name across all manufacturers. There is no reason a shape and colour scheme could not be implemented along with this. This is exactly what has happened with syringes following the critical incidents with with IV chemo given intrathecal, oral solutions down central venous catheters, etc. There were too many incidents and now you can't attach a oral tube to a IV line etc and there a strict amongst other actions.
 
There are so many medications that I don't see how it would be possible, there are only a few different shapes and colours possible, there aren't enough permutations to cover even a small fraction of drugs. Trying to get every manufacturer in the world to comply with it would also be virtually impossible.
 
I wasn't going to argue with Energize because I never realised there were different manufacturers but if we take my Lisinopril tablet then over the last 2 years I have easily had 10 different shapes, sizes & colours :confused:
I can even tell by my compartment box, there have been months where I've had to leave a tablet out but this month I could easily get another one in.
Yes it is my fault if I don't check.
 
Manufacturers will often use different shapes and colours for different dosages, and given that there is a number of different manufacturers for that drug, what you say is not surprising.
 
areksnumbr1sxylady said:
I mean if what this episode of Panarama says is true, then the idea that Pharmaceuticals are selling us duff Vaccinations which are near to useless doesn't seem impossible and laughable.
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Yes it does, because there are plenty of independent tests to verify the efficacy of vaccines and if they didn't work we wouldn't use them.

In any case, there's a big difference between enticing doctors to buy one drug over another, and selling them stuff that isn't effective at all. Evidence of the former is not evidence of the latter.
 
Energize said:
There are so many medications that I don't see how it would be possible
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No, it wouldn't. It would just require some thought. What you would need to determine is whether you need to differentiate in the function or between functions. Eg should all anti-hypertensives be red and say diuretics blue or would that increase the risk for incidents and actually it would be better to differentiate inside the function and say furosemide should be red, amiloride blue etc.
 
IIRC the UK is one of the few countries where the Doctor will give you a prescription by the generic name, and the pharmacy can then choose which brand to sell you (based on the pharmacists stock/cost/bung/brand preference).
In many other countries the decision on which brand to give you is made by the Doctor, who then gives you a prescription with the specific brand name on it and the pharmacy has to give you whichever brand the Doctor specified.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Read abook called Bad Pharma by Ben Goldacre. It gives a good explanation of what the issues with the industry are.
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And some very biased opinions from him as well.
Some of the stuff he criticises GSK for is utterly retarded.
GSK actually have an EU centre that companies can look at their research etc in a controlled environment, but that's not good enough for Goldcare. Because releasing such stuff on mass is good for the business, oh wait no it's not.

He's got an agenda and companies like GSK have an agenda and the truth is somewhere in the middle. Over the last decade GSK have introduced a lot of very good stuff, that is beyond what is required by law and are trying to improve even more. But people like Goldcare just ignore all that.

Still am interesting book, but some off it had to be taken with a pinch of salt and the trouble is knowing what to take with a pinch of salt and what not to.
 
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Westyfield2 said:
/snip.
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In the USA every state has its own laws on generic substitutions it a nightmare. Most decent practitioners though (worldwide) will give a generic unless there is not a total equivalent or you want a specific action or the other bits are different. To give examples I would always prescribe Paracetamol (branded Calpol), because you aint going to get a kid to take the cheap stuff and you be wasting time trying to do so.
 
Xordium said:
No, it wouldn't. It would just require some thought. What you would need to determine is whether you need to differentiate in the function or between functions. Eg should all anti-hypertensives be red and say diuretics blue or would that increase the risk for incidents and actually it would be better to differentiate inside the function and say furosemide should be red, amiloride blue etc.
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As I said earlier, there are not enough permutations.

Westyfield2 said:
IIRC the UK is one of the few countries where the Doctor will give you a prescription by the generic name, and the pharmacy can then choose which brand to sell you (based on the pharmacists stock/cost/bung/brand preference).
In many other countries the decision on which brand to give you is made by the Doctor, who then gives you a prescription with the specific brand name on it and the pharmacy has to give you whichever brand the Doctor specified.
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Yes, prescribing generics all the time certainly increases the risk of accidents from drug mix ups.
 
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