Titan Z

Gregster · 29 Apr 2014 at 09:19

Titan Z thread looks like a 295x2 thread

LtMatt · 29 Apr 2014 at 09:19

^

Placed right in the TitanZ thread. Proud of you Gibbo.

18 mhz overclock? I'm sure they could've at least gone to 1050 mhz. At least this comes with the briefcase though.

triss · 29 Apr 2014 at 09:22

Dont they all come with the case?

Woodsta888 · 29 Apr 2014 at 09:23

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-titan-z-postponed-date/

Oh dear, Nvidia obviously didn't think AMD could pull two hot 290x's on one PCB out of the bag. Titan Z requiring re engineering to make it faster, hope they don't re-engineer the price - upwards.

Gibbo · 29 Apr 2014 at 09:24

LtMatt said:
^ Placed right in the TitanZ thread. Proud of you Gibbo.

18 mhz overclock? I'm sure they could've at least gone to 1050 mhz. At least this comes with the briefcase though.

1050Mhz is not always possible on these cards, just like high memory frequencies, when we did some testing albeit all on stock voltage the card would tend to clock core wise 1050-1100MHz and memory upto 7000MHz. But with some strange happenings which could maybe be due to lack of power, in our testing we did use an old Antec 1200W in fairness which 8 Pack has given a good thrashing over the years.

Still the 295 X2 is not really a card to overclock, its more about a truly powerful gaming card and designed for 4k use which it does superbly well.

whyscotty · 29 Apr 2014 at 09:54

Gibbo said:
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Still the 295 X2 is not really a card to overclock,
its more about a truly powerful gaming card and designed for 4k use which it does superbly well.

So there's no headroom to overclock?

ubersonic · 29 Apr 2014 at 09:56

LtMatt said:
Not forgetting push pull on the rad.

I'd be slapping two Gentle Typhoon 1850 RPM fans on that rad if it was me. That would bring temps down into the low 60's - high 50's i bet.

I'm not sure if I would want to plug two GT's into the 295x2 as we don't know what power the header is rated for, but a second one could def be run off the mobo or a molex (mobo would be best as it would ramp up with CPU temp and GPU/CPU usage usually go hand in hand unless your mining).

LtMatt · 29 Apr 2014 at 09:59

ubersonic said:
I'm not sure if I would want to plug two GT's into the 295x2 as we don't know what power the header is rated for, but a second one could def be run off the mobo or a molex (mobo would be best as it would ramp up with CPU temp and GPU/CPU usage usually go hand in hand unless your mining).

I'd use my fan controller, just like i have done on other AIO gpu coolers.

Yaayuh! · 29 Apr 2014 at 10:02

Gregster said:
Titan Z thread looks like a 295x2 thread

Indeed..

Kaapstad · 29 Apr 2014 at 10:36

LtMatt said:
Not forgetting push pull on the rad.

I'd be slapping two Gentle Typhoon 1850 RPM fans on that rad if it was me. That would bring temps down into the low 60's - high 50's i bet.

I use these very fans a lot and using them in push/pull is not going to make a lot of difference to the temps - worse still if the 295 was overclocked a lot there is no way a single 120mm rad is going to deal with the extra wattage.

I use 6 Gentle Typhoon 1850 RPM fans on a 360mm rad just to cool a 3960X and even then things can get a bit warm.

As Gibbo said this card is not really for overclocking, I think people should enjoy it for what it is - a superb gaming card.

ubersonic · 29 Apr 2014 at 11:00

Kaapstad said:
I use these very fans a lot and using them in push/pull is not going to make a lot of difference to the temps - worse still if the 295 was overclocked a lot there is no way a single 120mm rad is going to deal with the extra wattage.

Well technically speaking a single 120mm could cool pretty much any loop, it's just the noise form the airflow required would be unbearable. The one on the 295x2 still has a lot left in the tank as it's doing well with a single generic fan, a pair of GT's would def increase it's overhead.

Kaapstad said:
I use 6 Gentle Typhoon 1850 RPM fans on a 360mm rad just to cool a 3960X and even then things can get a bit warm.

That's a bit of a skewed statement, you don't mention what type of rad or what clocks your running the 3960X at, or what your definition of a bit warm is, tubing/rads are supposed to be warm. By comparison I have 3 Gentle Typhoon 1150 RPM fans on a 360mm rad cooling a 4930K and temps are fine, in that example 1850's would do nothing as the rad is low FPI so owuld see 0 benefit from higher RPM or push/pull.

To be honest if you have a high FPI rad and six GT1850's then any temp issue will most likely be down to the loop being unable to get the heat from the block to the rad fast enough, not the rad being unable to exhaust it.

Kaapstad said:
As Gibbo said this card is not really for overclocking, I think people should enjoy it for what it is - a superb gaming card.

All samples are different, a lot of review sites have gotten better overclocks from this card than from most R290X they have reviewed.

Kaapstad · 29 Apr 2014 at 11:09

ubersonic said:
Well technically speaking a single 120mm could cool pretty much any loop, it's just the noise form the airflow required would be unbearable. The one on the 295x2 still has a lot left in the tank as it's doing well with a single generic fan, a pair of GT's would def increase it's overhead.

That's a bit of a skewed statement, you don't mention what type of rad or what clocks your running the 3960X at, or what your definition of a bit warm is, tubing/rads are supposed to be warm. By comparison I have 3 Gentle Typhoon 1150 RPM fans on a 360mm rad cooling a 4930K and temps are fine, in that example 1850's would do nothing as the rad is low FPI so owuld see 0 benefit from higher RPM or push/pull.

To be honest if you have a high FPI rad and six GT1850's then any temp issue will most likely be down to the loop being unable to get the heat from the block to the rad fast enough, not the rad being unable to exhaust it.

I use an AX 360 rad for that, all it has to keep cool is a 3960X which overclocked can use nearly 400 watts - a bit less than the 295x2 at stock.

ubersonic said:
All samples are different, a lot of review sites have gotten better overclocks from this card than from most R290X they have reviewed.

Could you post the links please as I have not seen any reviews for the 295 where it has gone over 1100mhz on the core.

LtMatt · 29 Apr 2014 at 11:23

Kaapstad said:
I use an AX 360 rad for that, all it has to keep cool is a 3960X which overclocked can use nearly 400 watts - a bit less than the 295x2 at stock.

Could you post the links please as I have not seen any reviews for the 295 where it has gone over 1100mhz on the core.

The rad is only cooling the cores of the 295x2 though the vrms are cooled by the large fan in the middle.

1135mhz - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...md-radeon-r9-295x2-performance-review-19.html
1120mhz - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_295_X2/27.html
1120mhz - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/04/08/amd-radeon-r9-295x2-review/10

Some other reviews are showing 1100mhz. This is all at stock voltage. 1100mhz is the core clock both of my 290's will do on stock voltage.

humbug · 29 Apr 2014 at 11:25

LtMatt said:
The rad is only cooling the cores of the 295x2 though the vrms are cooled by the large fan in the middle.

1135mhz - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...md-radeon-r9-295x2-performance-review-19.html
1120mhz - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_295_X2/27.html
1120mhz - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/04/08/amd-radeon-r9-295x2-review/10

Some other reviews are showing 1100mhz. This is all at stock voltage. 1100mhz is the core clock both of my 290's will do on stock voltage.

And thats reviews, not known for trying properly, its understandable that they don't want to spend much time on fine tuning.

ubersonic · 29 Apr 2014 at 13:26

tayto_0 said:
Nvidia could allow AIB partners to bundle better cooling solutions/ water blocks with their cards like Gigabyte did when they sold the Titan with the Titan cooler and their WindForce cooler also bundled with it.

Inno3D have been showing off an iChill HerculeZ Cooler for Titan Z, looks pretty "cool" /drumroll.

To be fair I think a lot of people are forgetting that this card is going to have the same TDP as the 7990, and that did okay on air (in a decent case, which anyone spending dual GPU money should have). If Titan Z's reference cooler is => the 7990 one then it should also do okay on air, and the third party coolers on AIB's should help even more.

tommybhoy · 29 Apr 2014 at 13:57

GeForce GTX TITAN-Z Market Availability Delayed?

NVIDIA's flagship dual-GPU graphics card, the GeForce GTX TITAN-Z, was expected to go on sale later today. That launch is now delayed, according to a SweClockers report. The three thousand Dollar question is why. According to some sources, NVIDIA is effecting a last minute design change that sees a meatier cooler on the card, than the one Jen-Hsun Huang rafikied to the press at GTC 2014.

There may have been a last-minute realization at Santa Clara, that the card - as presented at GTC - may not cut it in the ring against AMD's Radeon R9 295X2, or at least it won't be able to warrant its vulgar $3000 price tag, against the R9 295X2's $1500; despite AMD's rather messy three-piece approach to its liquid-cooled product (the card itself, a radiator, and coolant tubing), and so NVIDIA could be redesigning the GTX TITAN-Z with an even bigger cooler, to facilitate higher clock speeds.

http://www.techpowerup.com/200320/geforce-gtx-titan-z-market-availability-delayed.html

Woodsta888 · 29 Apr 2014 at 13:59

As the Titan Z has been delayed as it's not fast enough to trump the 295 - they have had to put a bigger cooling solution on it to keep down the temps for the higher clocks required to trump the 295.

For $3k I'd be wanting a built in liquid cooling solution. Guess as it's a Titan it will have workstation appeal for that money otherwise only thing left is a 790. And I don't reckon that's gonna blow a 295 out of the water either. Not on perf or price. Here's hoping though.

Gregster · 29 Apr 2014 at 14:01

I would imagine that anyone who bought one (or 2) of these for gaming has the intention of ripping the cooler off and adding a waterblock to it....Well I would hope they would anyways

Woodsta888 · 29 Apr 2014 at 14:04

Spend $3k on a card......then pay to cool it yourself? :eek:

Orangey · 29 Apr 2014 at 14:16

Doubt anyone will buy one for gaming, only applications I can see are workstation where each slot needs as much power packed into it as poss.