Modern nuclear weapons are "relatively' clean compared to the early days of atom bombs, the fallout is far more contained.
(Detonation altitude and wind/environment conditions can make it more or less extreme however).
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Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Modern nuclear weapons are "relatively' clean compared to the early days of atom bombs, the fallout is far more contained.
(Detonation altitude and wind/environment conditions can make it more or less extreme however).
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-04-28/violent-clashes-between-russians-and-ukrainians/
Must see report from ITV News on a pro-Ukrainian rally that turned violent when attacked by a pro-Russian mob in Dontesk. Hopefully busts a few myths that are knocking around such as eastern Ukraine being overwhelmingly in favour of being part of Russia, and the pro-Russian protestors being there to protect the people.
Must see report from ITV News on a pro-Ukrainian rally that turned violent when attacked by a pro-Russian mob in Dontesk. Hopefully busts a few myths that are knocking around such as eastern Ukraine being overwhelmingly in favour of being part of Russia, and the pro-Russian protestors being there to protect the people.
Holding a pro-EU rally in a pro-Russia city was always going to result in trouble >.>
Just as an update to this, they are still airing all Ukrainian channels, the only change they have made is to resume rebroadcasting of Rossiya 24 (Russian news channel) after it was banned by Kiev.
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scorza why are your hero's not doing anything about the 600+ people who have been sentenced to death in Egypt?
It was a pro-Ukraine rally in Ukraine - see the flags the protestors draped themselves in. I note that we're back to the stock excuse for pro-Russian violence that the victims always "brought it on themselves".
In other words, instead of stopping lies and misinformation which was the putative reason for seizing the TV station, they're now just broadcasting the lies and misinformation that they want to be heard.
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The FAS investigations from last year put Russian strategically operational weapons (so including bombers with munitions loaded with warheads) at nearly 2000. Pretty much irrelevent since 1 800kt SS25 over London would bring England to its knees, and they could theoretically fire those from Kaliningrad.
Or how about an SS-18 M6 MIRV with 10 x 800Kt warheads, one for each city and i doubt any US missile defence system can shoot down a MIRV warhead.
In a separatist stronghold, funnily enough the self proclaimed Donetsk people's republic hails from Donetsk, the reason the police didn't break up the attack is because they are loyal to the separatists/rebels.
I'm quite confused as to how you could reach that conclusion, previously only one side of the story was being broadcast, now both sides are.
If it's such a separatist stronghold why did so many (something like 7000 I understand) pro-Ukrainian protestors take to the streets? Don't confuse being in control with popular support, opinion polls taken in the region suggest that around 70% of people in eastern Ukraine disapprove of Russia's actions in the region, which suggests that even the ethnic Russian people aren't in favour of this so-called people's republic.
Which will result in further confusion, unrest and violence in the region, which of course is what Russia wants. I'm not aware of the quality of journalism for Ukrainian TV but I've not seen anything to suggest it's as poor as what passes for Russian journalism these days.
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The east is about 80% Pro-Russian. Pro-Ukranian rallies are pretty much the courtesy of "Mobile-Maidan" there are people who are from Kiev or Western Ukraine who come in Cars and start causing trouble
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Shhh.... We only blame Russia her and her allies, our Allies, no matter what they do. They are the good guys!
Got a source for that? Here's one that would appear to suggest that being "Pro-Russia" doesn't translate into support for Russia's actions in Ukraine: http://www.iri.org/sites/default/fi...of Residents of Ukraine, April 3-12, 2014.pdf
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Yeah I am sure similar research could be conducted and it would conclude that USA is Pro-Russian invasion of itself... Or that the Earth is Flat and being supported by 3 giants turtles.
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Nevertheless, it's more evidence than you appear to have to support your case.
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Looking at the 'protesters' on both sides in the news reports it seems to me like the EDL went on a tour of the steppes.
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Proof? Have a read of their Twitter, they dont hide the fact that they participate in the protests
AutoMaidan is purely Kiev/Western Ukraine, they are now actively driving around Eastern Ukraine causing provocations.
Could you explain 1 thing to me though? Why the protesters in Maidan were the "Freedom Fighters" and protesters in the Eastern Ukraine are suddenly terrorists and currently being shot at?
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Proof? Have a read of their Twitter, they dont hide the fact that they participate in the protests
AutoMaidan is purely Kiev/Western Ukraine, they are now actively driving around Eastern Ukraine causing provocations.
So how is this proof that 80% of people in Ukraine are pro-Russia? I think we should try and define what pro-Russia means. In this context I suggest it means supportive of Russia's stance and recent actions in Ukraine.
I've never called the Maidan protestors "freedom fighters", neither am I aware of any western media outlet doing so. I also cringe whenever I hear the Kiev government describe the pro-Russian protestors "terrorists", I don't believe it's an accurate or appropriate term to use.
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I Think the implication is, if they are not freedom fighters then they are terrorists who overthrew the legitimately voted in government by way of force? And by working with them and supporting their legitimacy we have created an absurd situation where one man is literally free to dispose but others aren't?
What is it about Putin that appeals to right wingers in Europe? Farage, Le Pen, even people here seem to be fascinated by this autocratic ruler. Is it the emphasis he puts on tradition? The rejection of progressive values? Or maybe you see him as a fighter against the current World Establishment/Order?
The two terms are not mutually exclusive. I am neither a terrorist or a freedom fighter. If I had to label the Maidan protestors I would say they were pro-democracy supporters - yes that's right pro-democracy, because even though Yanukovych was brought to power via an election that doesn't that people shouldn't demonstrate against his actions if they wish, and it really is a catastrophic failure of an elected leader if his actions are so unpopular that he has to flee the country as a result.
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