!MUSLIM SAMWICH ARMYGEDDON!

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Just convinces me that a lot of businesses survive due to sheer luck rather than managerial competence, given that their most popular subs are the ones with ham or bacon in them, this could well be the nail in the coffin for the franchise.

Have you got their sales figures to back that up?
 
Sorry but that post bores me. You shouldn't really engage in conversations which are above your pay grade. :o

And once again the same side of the debate can't actually engage with anything to really substantiate their beliefs and when called up on it then resorts to the very same mechanisms that are apparently so onerous from the other side. That's twice in this thread now that I've noticed.

@ Magnolia I am sure you're loving this what's your next thread on: the McCann's you can start in a few days hell someone will and we haven't done circumcision for a few months. :D
 
And once again the same side of the debate can't actually engage with anything to really substantiate their beliefs and when called up on it then resorts to the very same mechanisms that are apparently so onerous from the other side. That's twice in this thread now that I've noticed.

It's my prerogative not to entertain every piece of nonsense that is fired my way. Most I ignore, some I put down, but that's just the polemicist in me.

If you have issue with anything I have said then please bring it on. I'm open to the challenge. By this I'm referring to the argument. I'm not interested in your zealous summations of my responses to stupidity in this thread.
 
Are you being serious or do you have some form of mental retardation I should know about ? You kept incorrectly asserting for some reason, that I didn't know the definition of faith. When I gave you my view and then a dictionary definition you admit that is a correct definition but then try to assert that I'm not using the right one. :confused: Are you completely incapable of rational thought ?



How does what you have said make any sense ? You're just making things up now. I told you clearly that I don't have faith in anything and that I had trust in things. I explained how this trust was acquired quite clearly in my previous posts but now you're ignoring all that and accusing me again of having faith. Are you honestly not trolling me ?

Aww it's adorable that you think you're being coherent.

I find it comical that you have to resort to insults too, because that shows just how much faith you have in the nonsense you're saying. You should do stand up.
 
Aww it's adorable that you think you're being coherent.

I find it comical that you have to resort to insults too, because that shows just how much faith you have in the nonsense you're saying. You should do stand up.

Where were the insults ? No insults only honest reactions to ignorance.
 
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You just don't seem to be able to back anything at all. You keep making appeals to intellect when the substantial body of your message seems to be attacking the poster rather than their actual viewpoint.

May I ask the question I asked the other bloke earlier.

How do you know the universe that you believe you exist in does actually exist in the form you believe it to?
Where is your proof?
Or do you just accept it as a reasonable starting point because let's face it we have to have one.
If so then why don't you allow other people to accept things unproven on faith but demand that luxury yourself?
 
Just leave him to it, he's your standard arrogant internet atheist who thinks he's part of some elite club because he read a Richard Dawkins book. I don't think I've seen one so afraid to accept that they have faith in something though, even if it is science.
 
Which is the whole point there is nothing wrong with taking something on faith we all have to. The problem is when you take something on faith in direction opposition to all available advice, evidence and social norms - that is not something god falls into because there is no evidence for or against that could be scientifically assessed because it is totally unmeasurable. The sensible scientific position is to just ignore the question and move onto something more productive.
 
If so then why don't you allow other people to accept things unproven on faith but demand that luxury yourself?

I'll cut to the chase, as the rest of your post was frankly superfluous.

Why do you think I demand the luxury of faith myself given everything I've said in this thread about the context of faith in religious arguments ? Did you not read my pet dragon example which clearly explains the difference between faith and trust ? Or did it not sit comfortably with your pre-conceived ideas and as such you just decided to ignore or disregard it ? I do not do faith. Lets be clear about that. I've explained why already, if you choose not to accept it then we don't really have much else to discuss.

Also, It's not that I don't allow people to accept things unproven as you so insidiously phrased it. It's that I don't value faith as a virtue. I see it as a vice. When I meet a person and they say, 'I'm a person of faith', that does not impress me. Instead I think, so you are person whose prepared to believe just about anything based on no evidence what so ever. Without wanting to sound too arrogant, I firmly believe people like that are extremely credulous.
 
Xordium can't distinguish the difference between faith based on a bibles stories, and faith what a qualified school teacher is telling you.

I can however you never actually bothered to see how I defined the terms. So you both decided to assume something. Gaze into that abyss chaps ... you're almost totally converted now.

We had someone asking a physics question on the same page as this thread I am shocked how you two didn't pop in there to dazzle everyone with your scientific knowledge. ;)
 
Xordium can't distinguish the difference between faith based on a bibles stories, and faith what a qualified school teacher is telling you.

And Sliver can't accept that they're both forms of faith. I have memories of a few incorrect things my school teachers told me, and I can assure you that being wrong is not something exclusive to the lower levels of scientific study. There's no evidence for there being a god, but there's also no evidence against it.

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The sensible scientific position is to just ignore the question and move onto something more productive.
 
Nope. You just don't understand what faith means.

If it's of any worth to you, it's obvious to everyone reading that your right and Silver is wrong.


When I meet a person and they say, 'I'm a person of faith', that does not impress me. Instead I think, so you are person whose prepared to believe just about anything based on no evidence what so ever. Without wanting to sound too arrogant, I firmly believe people like that are extremely credulous.

You realise that you declared yourself to be a person of faith (in science) on the last page right? :P
 
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