With the DM being the 2nd most popular news source in the country, I really do wonder whether the public should have a say at all
Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?
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With the DM being the 2nd most popular news source in the country, I really do wonder whether the public should have a say at all
That's precisely what I mean. You send a guy to represent and protect British interests in EU and he ends up creating a pub brawl calling President of the European Council a "damp rag with the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk" and then repeatedly keeps asking "who voted for you, who are you" as if he had amnesia or was mentally unstable. Van Rompuy, representing Belgium as Prime Minister was elected unanimously by 27 prime ministers and heads of state from EU member states to be President of the European Council on 19 November 2009. Asking Prime Minister of Belgium who voted for him and call the nation he represents as the head of state "pretty much a non-country" is beyond retarded. It's like asking Obama who voted for him in to be in G8 and then go on a mad tirade mocking his appearance in front of cameras.
Do you really think this man this charming and this sane could negotiate any trade agreements with anyone after severing ties with 26 trade partners within EU?
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Democrazy!
I've posted like twice in this thread mainly to troll the idiotic ukip voters, but enjoy your moment of glory in the MEP elections, which will no doubt have a record low turnout, then we can all watch farage get butchered next year
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Farage is an embarrassment on the international stage for this country, no wonder European countries laugh at us. Not that Farage ever turns up in the EU parliament anyway
I'm no fan of Labour, but the people attributing the after-effects of the 2008 financial collapse to their last period of governance are utterly deluded.
People see lightning and think it's God's displeasure, people see a financial crisis and blame their government...
People see lightning and think it's God's displeasure, people see a financial crisis and blame their government...
I've posted like twice in this thread mainly to troll the idiotic ukip voters, but enjoy your moment of glory in the MEP elections, which will no doubt have a record low turnout, then we can all watch farage get butchered next year
All of your posts in all the political threads just shows you up to be so incredibly naïve to such a degree that your age has been called into question a couple of times.
I'll probably answer this later when I have more time but asking who he is, is a very valid question when he controls a state that the general public lives in
I couldn't agree more. The sooner these clowns are thrown out of government the better. Roll on 2015.
And who would you replace them with? Labour who sold this country down the river? The Lib "we promise to vote against tuition fee rises" Dems? The Greens, with their strange ideas about energy? Those clowns in UKIP? Who is left?
Personally, I'm going to spoil my ballot.
I think you're partially correct. The 2008 financial crisis happened on a global scale. There was nothing the incumbent UK government could have done to avoid it.
Labour's deregulation of the banks made the situation worse but the Conservatives would have done the same if they'd been in power. To blame the crisis on Labour would be erroneous.
Labour made quite a few bad calls when they were in power, in my opinion. However, the vast majority of those bad decisions were policies that the Conservative party agreed with.
Who is Farage to question Prime Minister of Belgium on european democracy? Do you know what percentage of Belgians voted in last MEP elections? 90.39 %. Do you know how many Brits voted in last MEP elections? 34.7%. Do you know which country out of core EU17 had lower electoral turnout than Britain? Not a single one. But then again none of them vote in office hours on Thursday and thus allow working people to take part. Do you know how Farage got his seat? By choice of just 2,498,226 out of 44 million odd entitled to vote.
So under what possible scenario would some random fringe party leader elected to EU parliament by minority vote of 5.6% in his country shouting imbecilisms about looks and wardrobe habits of a Prime Minister of another country elected by other country leaders to chair the Council be acceptable?
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UKIP. If only to try and wake the main parties up.
As for the general election. Chances are it would be Labour, but I don't really trust them after the last time, but there's no one else... The Lib Dems sold out and are probably in line for a (well deserved?) beating and I couldn't vote Tory, purely on principal.
As for the general election. Chances are it would be Labour, but I don't really trust them after the last time, but there's no one else... The Lib Dems sold out and are probably in line for a (well deserved?) beating and I couldn't vote Tory, purely on principal.
I think this is only partially true. There are things that could have been done, but they needed to be done in 1998 not 2008. They'd also have been likely to be very unpopular at the time and there certainly wasn't any suggestion of any better approach for the Blue benchs.
Indeed. Osborne and Cameron were calling for further deregulation mere months before the crisis hit and Cameron took a visit to the US to praise the rise of the subprime market.
I agree. I also think that Brown gets far too little credit for acting decisively in the aftermath of the crunch. While his approach with the banks did lead to heavy public debt the apocalyptic collapse of our banks would have been worse. There were bad decisions too (Lloyds-TSB takeover of HBOS, anyone?) but it was, over all, a pretty solid performance. They also got the economy recovering pretty quickly until the Tories took hold of things.
I dunno. I think New Labour had it's own unique set of bad calls: things like ID cards, the Iraq War, their constant, target-driven approach to public service improvement, the over-use of poorly negotiated PFI, and so on.
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I am voting Lib Dem after seeing a clip of their party political broadcast on Gogglebox. I think we should get up to our nuts in the European project, including the Euro when the time comes (aim for the next 10 years anyway). Lib Dems are the self proclaimed 'party of in', so they get my vote.
I could never bring myself to vote Tory, Labour are weak under Milliband and the SNP are only interested in one thing.
I could never bring myself to vote Tory, Labour are weak under Milliband and the SNP are only interested in one thing.
What principal?
I knew he was a tool but I had no idea he was this bad, he is ann embarrassment to this country and I have no idea how he hasn't been banned from European politics O.o
The EU isn't that fascist yet.
Yeah, I'm sure that Blair/Brown selling off assets wholesale, raiding the national piggy bank for every penny and maxing out the credit cards in order to build domes and stuff to show the public how great labour is had absolutely no ill effect on how badly the financial crisis affected the UK >.>
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Banks caused financial crises when labour in power, Con dems, making the worst off people in the country pay with forced unpaid labour, Sanctions, bedroom tax and relentless attack on the sick and disabled. More people having to use food banks, suicides on the increase among the not so well off, welfare reforms that's costing the taxpayer billions and failing those who need help, A work programme that is a disaster, punishing part time workers who claim in work benefit when the shambles of Universal credits get rolled out , I could put up links to all these facts but just couldn't be bothered to sift through them. Conservative voters are uncompassionate, I'm all right jack pull the ladder up types who live in a parallel Universe.
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