Swiping before chip and pin?

[Eurofighter]

I have had this happen to me before. Pretty sure it's legit, just doesn't happen often.

 

[ocmanus]

So this happened today. I went to a clothes shop in town (Officers Club) and bought some new shoes. The guy at the checkout scans the shoes and I go to pay with my card. Just before I put it in the chip and pin machine he grabs it and says "I just have to swipe this", proceeding to swipe it in the till and gives it back to me to put in the chip and pin. I asked him what he did it for and he just says "Oh we just have to". Didn't look like any sort of skimmer, since I could clearly see him swiping it on the keyboard attached to the till.

Anyone else experienced this? Seems very weird to me.

That sounds dodgy. Cancel your card to be on the safe side and speak to the manager at the shop. Did you get the assistant's name?

 

[bazzabear]

As others, I've seen this before. I think it's when the card machine is completely separate from the till system, so they can associate your payment details with the sale details.

 

[diamount]

Local Halfords did this up until very recently, I just figured old till tech.

Chip and pin has been standard for 10+ years, that doesn't fly with me.

 

[bazzabear]

I wouldn't be surprised at Officer's Club having old tech though.

 

[neil_g]

Chip and pin has been standard for 10+ years, that doesn't fly with me.

youd be surprised how many retailers that run EPOS systems that are antiquated.

I used to have to support some (which I know are still used) for one national retailer that were original Celerons with 256mb ram. bloody things still cost a fortune to buy and repair.

some retailers just wont have the budget to strip the lot out. more so the small-med national ones, EPOS certainly aren't cheap.

 

[diamount]

youd be surprised how many retailers that run EPOS systems that are antiquated.

I used to have to support some (which I know are still used) for one national retailer that were original Celerons with 256mb ram. bloody things still cost a fortune to buy and repair.

some retailers just wont have the budget to strip the lot out. more so the small-med national ones, EPOS certainly aren't cheap.

I'm surprised they weren't a target for fraudsters then, that would encourage them to upgrade.

 

[neil_g]

I'm surprised they weren't a target for fraudsters then, that would encourage them to upgrade.

how so?

nothing unsecure about them, they just had separate modules like someone else said for chip and pin.

id agree with those saying the store in question here swiped the card to make a note of the transaction tying it back to the separate card receipt. my guess is that poor staff training (usually due to high staff turnover) meant that the guy on the till did not know why they had to do it, just to do it.

 

[Jimbeam3678]

youd be surprised how many retailers that run EPOS systems that are antiquated.

I used to have to support some (which I know are still used) for one national retailer that were original Celerons with 256mb ram. bloody things still cost a fortune to buy and repair.

some retailers just wont have the budget to strip the lot out. more so the small-med national ones, EPOS certainly aren't cheap.

PCI compliance mean anything to you ?