Well from your posts you claim the Greens are best but your views seem very communist
Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?
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Well from your posts you claim the Greens are best but your views seem very communist
The proles are being herded away from UKIP? Seriously?
What next. Complaints about the bourgeoisie rioting about the price of bread?
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I will proudly vote for UKIP. They will never achieve a majority power but their core issues needs to be discussed openly. For many many years no-one wanted to discuss the erosion of the British culture, nor the immigration issue, until UKIP have forced the main parties to address it. Society in Britain in my view has changed radically and for the worse. We constantly talk about the economy, economy, economy as its an safe topic to stay on. However, what about social cohesion, protecting British values, protecting British interests over those not born and so on. This is not something to be ashamed of! Of course these topics infuriate the far left as somehow we are racists. Having a preference is not the same as racism. We do in in our daily live, who our friends are, who we marry, where we work. This by no means suggest we hate other nationalities.
If one waves a union jack in the UK they are seen as a fascist, a xenophobe, a closed minded BNP supporter. Americans love a stars and stripes, as do the Chinese. In China they hang a flag outside every government building, every school, college. Kids are paraded out every week to see the raising of the flag. I like this idea. It beings together a society, instils a sense of comradery, a sense of unity and belonging.
Britain has a rich 1000 years of history from Alfred the Great to the 100 years war to Henry 8th, to Churchill and Thatcher. In Britain we shy away from the Union jack, feel ashamed, look to the floor, apologetic .... That cannot be right!
Look at all this nonsense about the 'plebgate' affair. Do you think Churchill would have given a **** about something like that. Look at our current set of politicians like Lib dems, soft as ****. Churchill once ordered an attack on their allies, the French during WW2, sinking a lot of their fleet as it was in danger of falling into German hands and the French wouldn't fight, nor hand over to the British to be manned. Do you think any man in West minister would have the courage to do something like. Not a chance! A vast number of people in UK melted down their garden railings, their metal items to be transported to the factories, to be melted down for weapons. Would this happen now? Thatcher, for whatever your opinion of her was, defended the nation during Falklands war with pride. Regan was dead keen to help out but she said we will do it alone. When the Falklands were invaded, they navy was not ready but we had ships pouring out of Southampton in 2 days. Imagine this was today. Cameron would be debating it in parliament, making strong statements but still doing **** all. Milliband would be flying to the Falklands with open arms thinking a group hug would solve everything, tweeting about it on the way.
My point of all of this is .... that many, many men have died for this country or dedicated their entire lives to protecting Britain, its identity, its heritage and its culture. And all this 1000 years has be ****ed away in a few years by a lot of soppy, baby head-kissing twits. It is truly a shame, a great shame indeed.
Please fully star out all swearing in future. Thank you.
If one waves a union jack in the UK they are seen as a fascist, a xenophobe, a closed minded BNP supporter. Americans love a stars and stripes, as do the Chinese. In China they hang a flag outside every government building, every school, college. Kids are paraded out every week to see the raising of the flag. I like this idea. It beings together a society, instils a sense of comradery, a sense of unity and belonging.
Britain has a rich 1000 years of history from Alfred the Great to the 100 years war to Henry 8th, to Churchill and Thatcher. In Britain we shy away from the Union jack, feel ashamed, look to the floor, apologetic .... That cannot be right!
Look at all this nonsense about the 'plebgate' affair. Do you think Churchill would have given a **** about something like that. Look at our current set of politicians like Lib dems, soft as ****. Churchill once ordered an attack on their allies, the French during WW2, sinking a lot of their fleet as it was in danger of falling into German hands and the French wouldn't fight, nor hand over to the British to be manned. Do you think any man in West minister would have the courage to do something like. Not a chance! A vast number of people in UK melted down their garden railings, their metal items to be transported to the factories, to be melted down for weapons. Would this happen now? Thatcher, for whatever your opinion of her was, defended the nation during Falklands war with pride. Regan was dead keen to help out but she said we will do it alone. When the Falklands were invaded, they navy was not ready but we had ships pouring out of Southampton in 2 days. Imagine this was today. Cameron would be debating it in parliament, making strong statements but still doing **** all. Milliband would be flying to the Falklands with open arms thinking a group hug would solve everything, tweeting about it on the way.
My point of all of this is .... that many, many men have died for this country or dedicated their entire lives to protecting Britain, its identity, its heritage and its culture. And all this 1000 years has be ****ed away in a few years by a lot of soppy, baby head-kissing twits. It is truly a shame, a great shame indeed.
Please fully star out all swearing in future. Thank you.
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I live in London, many parts of east London, ethnic British are more and more a minority. English is becoming a degrading language in these place. I do not see this as progress.
Do not get me wrong, my view is that different races should be welcomed here and can enrich society but should be very limited not replace the long standing English communities.
Why is English degrading?
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English people do enough to degrade the English language themselves. Half of us can't speak properly at all, and half of those can hardly spell. Hardly anyone can use grammar properly etc.
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This may come from a few reasons. English is not spoken at home, amongst their family and friends. Other times its attributed to the fact that we have many migrant workers who are hear solely to earn some cash and send it home. I do not blame these people or in some way think they are lesser than the rest of the population. They are just trying to do what's right for them. School kids are falling behind in these areas because their parents cannot help them with their homework or in minor cases have come from a strict religious or uneducated background. This is a stated government concern.
For example, for the same borough or districts in london, east-Asian kids come top in their class for education, where as Pakistani and Africans perform the worst. Its has been quite consistent. Its not because the Africans are dumb or anything like that. It is more attributed to that east Asian parents put a huge emphasis on education. Middle eastern nations have traditionally focused heavily on religion whereas we traditionally focus on education and science. Israel have the same issue, the government are becoming concern with the Hasidic Jews. The erosion of talent is becoming a problem for them.
The difficulty is to get that balance between progress and protection of culture
For example, for the same borough or districts in london, east-Asian kids come top in their class for education, where as Pakistani and Africans perform the worst. Its has been quite consistent. Its not because the Africans are dumb or anything like that. It is more attributed to that east Asian parents put a huge emphasis on education. Middle eastern nations have traditionally focused heavily on religion whereas we traditionally focus on education and science. Israel have the same issue, the government are becoming concern with the Hasidic Jews. The erosion of talent is becoming a problem for them.
The difficulty is to get that balance between progress and protection of culture
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You love the green party. Well that's what you said. What's the matter run out of trashy things to say about UKIP?
And calling people names again...Grow up.
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Oh come on, as much as I don't like the class system, it's the working class that degrades the English language.
How does European worker migration and membership in common market (UKIP's two main core issues) erode British culture? Can you expand on this topic for me, I have a genuine interest in this outlook/subject?
I do not want to belittle this part of your post, because I still want to hear the answer to the first question above, but if I asked you to imagine the above quote being recited by someone in sharp voice, with vivid gesticulation, hair combed to the left and Charlie Chaplin's moustache, would you share my amusement with the historical similarities attached to the tone and presentation of your view?
But is this union jack issue forced upon you by European migrant workers and do you think separating from common market will improve the use of British flag across the land? Also, perhaps less dramatic than every household flying the flag on their door step, but isn't union jack on every pack of frozen chicken in Tesco, and t-shirts, mugs and hats of every street corner in London?
In North Korea people have such deep rooted sense of camaraderie they literally burst into tears when they catch glimpse of their leader. I for one, think I would be close to bursting to tears if Nigel was my leader as well. So in the most peculiar of ways, I think voting for UKIP could indeed result in adoption of at least some of the customs from communist cultures. /pauses expecting laughter, then lowers head and reaches for a coat/
I think we can all agree a lot of things that were done during WWII, on both sides of the trench, wouldn't be possible today with CNN camera crews present, but I suppose the question has to be asked - do you feel getting rid of EU migrant workers and separating from common market (or any other UKIP "core issues that need to be discussed") is the only thing that stops Philip Hammond and Mark Francois sinking French fleet today and would you or Britain in general be better for it if they did?
I'm desperately looking around the room for answers and I'm about to say "no, because of EU migrant workers"?
Man speaks the truth, where is Tony Blair when you need decisive military action and can Nigel be our Tony?
And you feel EU migrant workers took away what men who died for this country gave their life for?
Look... I can see there is anger and passion in what you post, so I will even if just for a second try and treat your post with gravitas as if it wasn't just a lot of ramblings on completely unrelated to UKIP subjects...
A lot of people find the world outside their window, in second decade of twenty first century, to be frustrating and moving too fast. But getting frustrated about globalisation and fighting with progress and changes is akin to luddites fighting with technology and machinery almost two centuries ago on a dot. Almost not a single country on earth looks the same as it did 30 years ago. It also never again will (look the same). You seem to know your history, so go through your memory, through all the history you know and try to see if the following isn't true:
Opposing changes and diversity can feel noble and patriotic, but in the end, it rarely is. The view that birthright provides some sort of priority over the land and allows for ethnic and/or cultural segregation, is never right and never ends well. No form of discrimination ever restored what was presumed to be lost in the nation, only caused more trouble. Closed door policy never led to the land or nation growing in strength. America and China, you quote for reference and example, would be an example and result of integration of many, many different cultures and nations?
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These immigrants fought both wth and against the nazis in WW2. You can't pretend that they didn't, and you can't pretend that that war was own simply because we were involved. Referring to WW2 is just ridiculous, and it wasn't fought by England because we were concerned about our own country. Hitler attempted to ally with us. But, we fought in defence of other nations and in defence of Jews, neither of which particularly relate to our own culture.
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Wow at the demonisation of the working class in here. I'm probably what you'd call "middle class " but many of my hard working friends are of working class stock. Some earn much more than I do!
Sad that we've let the press distort people's views of what working class is. Not everyone in that demographic is a sponging chav.
Sad that we've let the press distort people's views of what working class is. Not everyone in that demographic is a sponging chav.
I enjoyed the LBC interview, or, interrogation really. Condescending or not, James O'Brien is incredibly smart and quick thinking and humiliated Farage. While I agree on some of the things Farage is trying to stop, UKIP imo are dangerous and if they actually got into power, who knows what other things would start to happen. They're just another BNP in sheep's clothing.
"Migrants to the UK must learn English and "respect our way of life", Sajid David - the UK's first Asian secretary of state - has said in an interview."
"He also said there was no place for Sharia law in the English legal system"
"Mr Javid, the son of Pakistani immigrants, said: "People want Britain to have more control over its borders, and I think they are right."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27459468
Oh look the tory party jumping on the UKIP band wagon. I personley think his spot on.
"He also said there was no place for Sharia law in the English legal system"
"Mr Javid, the son of Pakistani immigrants, said: "People want Britain to have more control over its borders, and I think they are right."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27459468
Oh look the tory party jumping on the UKIP band wagon. I personley think his spot on.
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