Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?

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Saw in the news this morning that Farage is in trouble for using racial slurs against Romanians in a radio interview and for using the N word when talking to other UKIP leaders, that could hurt them in the upcoming election (at least with those still deluding themselves that they're not racist).
 
ubersonic said:
Saw in the news this morning that Farage is in trouble for using racial slurs against Romanians in a radio interview and for using the N word when talking to other UKIP leaders, that could hurt them in the upcoming election (at least with those still deluding themselves that they're not racist).
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Alleged in a 1997 interview by someone with a grudge.

Scrapping the barrel now!!
 
ubersonic said:
Saw in the news this morning that Farage is in trouble for using racial slurs against Romanians in a radio interview and for using the N word when talking to other UKIP leaders, that could hurt them in the upcoming election (at least with those still deluding themselves that they're not racist).
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Not as much as

"SENIOR Tories were last night distancing themselves from a think tank after claims it used taxpayer’s money to pay for a hotel suite that hosted a gay orgy during a Conservative Party conference"

I would expect all the main street papers to run stuff like this and about other party's as it sells papers.
 
Captain Planet said:
Source? My racist neighbour: voting UKIP. Racist relative: Voting UKIP. Racist people I know: Voting UKIP. Of course, these people would never admit to being racist, they don't see that they are racist, but they are with comments like "I don't like Pakistani's and blacks. They ruined the country didn't they?". It's generally older people who are "stuck in their way", but there really isn't an excuse for it today.

Also, there are all the recent racism scandals in the party. They've already been cited throughout this thread, and across the internet. Then you have the statements that the party "is not racist". Could you imagine the Libs, Labour or Cons having to make that kind of announcement? It's just absurd.

The other way to look at it is this. The UK has a percentage of racist residents ufortunately, many of them will be voting. Who are they most likely to vote for? BNP & UKIP, because they represent policies that are more in line with their views. UKIP also prey on people with xenophobic fears and are winning votes that way.

THEM & US

9usCeGkK
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You do realise you've just given your opinion here right? if you're going to accuse people of being racist then you need to show real evidence to back up your claims, you even stated that some people you consider racist will never admit they are, why do you think that is? it's because they probably aren't but you have convinced yourself otherwise.
Personally I find many immigrants do not want to integrate and are even hostile towards the English, I'm not saying all of them are like that but I can only go by my own experiences.

I do know what I'm talking about as I live in a majority immigrant area. Here are some incidents we've had to put up with over the last few years.

New Asian family move in opposite us, we say hello but are ignored which is fine as I think they maybe just want to keep themselves to themselves, Kid then starts playing football on front car park as we live in a cul-de-sac, ball hits our car and we become concerned it may get damaged, we ask politely if they would refrain from playing ball games on the car park but are ignored. Ball games escalate, we further try to reason with them to no avail, next door neighbour also Asian family who successfully managed to be friends with new residents decide to let their kids join in with the ball games, ball continues to hit our car and we again attempt to reason with them but are ignored. Neighbours kids then start to throw broken slabs at our ornaments in the garden and in our pond while the parents stand laughing, we report the incidents to the council, council eventually send out letters prohibiting ball games on front car park.

Things calm down for a while then ball games resume, we go over to kids parents and have a long chat with them telling them why we are concerned our car may be damaged, we think we have breakthrough as they engage in conversation and appear to understand, we even shake hands. Week later ball games continue but less frequent. Another new neighbour moves in other side of us also Asian with two kids, they start playing football, ball hits our car and living room window, neighbours opposite decide to come out and join in the ball games, we ask new neighbour if we could have a chat and explain ball games are not allowed and the council have prohibited ball games on car park, they say ok we didn't know, we say no problem thanks for being understanding, we go back in and kids carry on playing ball games.

We report again to the council, council send down housing lady who goes to chat with neighbours, all neighbours accuse us of bullying, council do not accept we are bullying. Further letters sent out again prohibiting ball games, we now await to see what happens as the summer approaches.
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I have been shouted at when walking down the street "Your in the wrong area" We overhear a conversation about burning our house down, Asian boys walk past shouting for us to move, car gets keyed, dustbins placed behind our car as we have to back out of our drive, clearly intended to cause an obstruction.
My sister gets shouted at "I hate whites" by Asian lad, My mother get fingers stuck up to her, rubbish thrown on our drive and front lawn, full cans of pop thrown at our living room window, we have reported most incidents to the Police and while we are at the moment enjoying a little peace we wait to see if hostilities continue.

Then I get morons accuse me of being racist, have a day off with the pathetic racist excuse IT DOESN'T WASH ANYMORE!
 
Zethor said:
What you're saying here is immigrants are stealing menial jobs, as they require no skills but the problem is menial jobs imply minimum pay which means immigrants can't lawfully get paid less. So how exactly are they stealing these jobs? What advantages do these people have?
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Do you really think a lot of companies pay these immigrants the proper minimum wage?..They don't!..cheap labour.

These immigrants come from countries that even if they are paid less than the minimum wage here would still be on more than if they to have had a job in their own country.

A company near me was closed down a couple of months ago on a raid for immigration,it was full of polish that were been paid under the minimum wage.
 
Captain Planet said:
Source? My racist neighbour: voting UKIP. Racist relative: Voting UKIP. Racist people I know: Voting UKIP. Of course, these people would never admit to being racist, they don't see that they are racist, but they are with comments like "I don't like Pakistani's and blacks. They ruined the country didn't they?". It's generally older people who are "stuck in their way", but there really isn't an excuse for it today.

Also, there are all the recent racism scandals in the party. They've already been cited throughout this thread, and across the internet. Then you have the statements that the party "is not racist". Could you imagine the Libs, Labour or Cons having to make that kind of announcement? It's just absurd.

The other way to look at it is this. The UK has a percentage of racist residents ufortunately, many of them will be voting. Whole are they most likely to vote for? BNP & UKIP, because they represent policies that are more in line with their views. UKIP also prey on people with xenophobic fears and are winning votes that way.

THEM & US

9usCeGkK
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Agree 100%
 
spankingtexan said:
You do realise you've just given your opinion here right? if you're going to accuse people of being racist then you need to show real evidence to back up your claims, you even stated that some people you consider racist will never admit they are, why do you think that is? it's because they probably aren't but you have convinced yourself otherwise.
Personally I find many immigrants do not want to integrate and are even hostile towards the English, I'm not saying all of them are like that but I can only go by my own experiences.

I do know what I'm talking about as I live in a majority immigrant area. Here are some incidents we've had to put up with over the last few years.

New Asian family move in opposite us, we say hello but are ignored which is fine as I think they maybe just want to keep themselves to themselves, Kid then starts playing football on front car park as we live in a cul-de-sac, ball hits our car and we become concerned it may get damaged, we ask politely if they would refrain from playing ball games on the car park but are ignored. Ball games escalate, we further try to reason with them to no avail, next door neighbour also Asian family who successfully managed to be friends with new residents decide to let their kids join in with the ball games, ball continues to hit our car and we again attempt to reason with them but are ignored. Neighbours kids then start to throw broken slabs at our ornaments in the garden and in our pond while the parents stand laughing, we report the incidents to the council, council eventually send out letters prohibiting ball games on front car park.

Things calm down for a while then ball games resume, we go over to kids parents and have a long chat with them telling them why we are concerned our car may be damaged, we think we have breakthrough as they engage in conversation and appear to understand, we even shake hands. Week later ball games continue but less frequent. Another new neighbour moves in other side of us also Asian with two kids, they start playing football, ball hits our car and living room window, neighbours opposite decide to come out and join in the ball games, we ask new neighbour if we could have a chat and explain ball games are not allowed and the council have prohibited ball games on car park, they say ok we didn't know, we say no problem thanks for being understanding, we go back in and kids carry on playing ball games.

We report again to the council, council send down housing lady who goes to chat with neighbours, all neighbours accuse us of bullying, council do not accept we are bullying. Further letters sent out again prohibiting ball games, we now await to see what happens as the summer approaches.
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I have been shouted at when walking down the street "Your in the wrong area" We overhear a conversation about burning our house down, Asian boys walk past shouting for us to move, car gets keyed, dustbins placed behind our car as we have to back out of our drive, clearly intended to cause an obstruction.
My sister gets shouted at "I hate whites" by Asian lad, My mother get fingers stuck up to her, rubbish thrown on our drive and front lawn, full cans of pop thrown at our living room window, we have reported most incidents to the Police and while we are at the moment enjoying a little peace we wait to see if hostilities continue.

Then I get morons accuse me of being racist, have a day off with the pathetic racist excuse IT DOESN'T WASH ANYMORE!
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Ever thought of installing cameras?

Where is this roughly? What Town/City area? Naturally it depends on where you live...
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I wanted to trace back the stats to make sure they're not being misinterpreted. The problem is I can't because they are quoting a TV documentary :/ and the one simply states Europol with nothing else.

Now, either they are incompetent, or they are trying to hide something.
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Problem is, people read things like that letter and go 'oh wow maybe he's miss-understood'.

spankingtexan said:
Fair enough.
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Like so.

Which furthers my original point, they're all a bunch of lying monkeys.
 
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