Poll: which party are you going to vote in up coming elections?

Who will you be voting for?


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It's interesting that apart from the Labour vote, our voting percentages are very similar to that of the nation. This forum is usually very skewed right and still is in this vote, but i'm surprised just how similar LD, Green, Cons and UKIP percentages are to the actual voting figures.
 
No, you need to add it on to the other benefits that have been explained to you throughout the thread that you forget/ignore as you see fit.

Please explain how the EU would have prevented us doing these things by ourself. I think you'll struggle.


No, you've mentioned nothing we didn't do 55 years ago.
The only difference is now we have to pay for it.

Come out the EU and use the money to build good sized home for the British people.
 
Roll on the general election I say.

Based on the results of these elections, it looks likely that there will be a hung parliament with Labour having the largest party. If this becomes the case, then you can forget your EU referendum and Britain will remain in the EU.

In which case, yes, roll on the general election.
 
[TW]Fox;26356836 said:
This is what worries me the most about the direction things are heading - people seem to have increasingly strong opinions on important subjects they appear to have done zero independent research on. So we get arknor convinced that people who can just rock up and claim benefits for the lulz without bothering to check his facts - I'd like to hope he wouldnt cast a vote based on these assumptions but...

There is absolutely nothing wrong with sitting down, considering the facts, educating yourself as to how the EU works and then deciding that on balance, you don't think it's a good idea and you think the UK would be better off outside of it. This is a rational, considered opinion.

There is everything wrong with the current trend of reading crap stories on rubbish newspapers, listening to other people spout BS and then deciding immigrants are the fault of everything, the EU sucks, and deciding we should be out of it as a result.

Both of those thought processes have the same net effect but IMHO only one is valid. Trouble with referendums and the like is the latter will dominate the former.
so they aren't claiming housing benefit , child benefit? I'm not talking about strictly JSA

we have our own minimum wage workers that take more out than they put in and we have more lined up at job centres.
we don't need people from other countries taking those jobs that are propped up by the government because the living wage does not exist.

how are these immigrants without jobs surviving? they must get some kind of benefit they can't all be begging in London and the majority of them can't even afford a plane ticket home so our government was offering to pay if they leave LOL..

half of them on the bbc programme said they would come back again as well

live in a squat for 3 months
http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/benefits-for-non-uk-nationals
claim JSA
 
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Come out the EU and use the money to build good sized home for the British people.

One home for the British people? That might get a bit cramped - perhaps we should increase education spending too.

Do you honestly think if we left the EU we could then get the government to spend the money they'd have spent on EU membership 'building homes'? To do what with, gift them to people?
 
Do you think a living wage is more likely to become a reality as a result of EU membership, or a UKIP-led government?

why is EU membership going to give us a living wage? why should we rely on the EU and not our own government? is it because our own government is fail and only cares about big business ?
 
is it because our own government is fail and only cares about big business ?

Whilst I can perhaps accept that losing a round in Counter Strike 'is fail' describing a Government as something which 'is fail' just further undermines your credibility.

If the current government ONLY cares about 'big business' then I'd quite like you to explain the purpose behind the increase in personal allowances, for example?
 
why is EU membership going to give us a living wage? why should we rely on the EU and not our own government? is it because our own government is fail and only cares about big business ?

If your fear is government looking after big business before the man in the street then it's pretty clear that you've done very little research before nailing your colours to UKIP.
 
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If the current government ONLY cares about 'big business' then I'd quite like you to explain the purpose behind the increase in personal allowances, for example?

A political compromise to appease the LibDem contingent of the coalition? The £10k personal allowance was part of the LibDems manifesto, I believe the Tories were opposed to it but compromises had to be made if they wanted to get in.
 
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increase in personal allowances, for example?

Over the last 5 years or so income (at the lower level) has stagnated whilst the cost of living has increased.

After some blue-sky thinking the Government have pushed the envelope to give employees an extra £2.50 a year tax free* so the Government can give themselves a pat on the back and remain professional gadabouts. :p

* I may have exaggerated this figure.
 
A political compromise to appease the LibDem contingent of the coalition?

That in itself is caring about something other than Big Business.

I love the way it's made to sound like big business is a bad thing - the type of economy we have means that most people benefit from successful British big businesses. It's in nobodies interest to not provide an environment for them to flourish in.
 
If your fear is government looking after big business before the man in the street then it's pretty clear that you've done very little research before nailing your colours to UKIP.

I know very well what UKIP would likely do long term.

we already know who they would go into a coalition with and this will likely dissuade a lot of voters from wanting them running the country.

All I want is for the big 3 parties to listen to the concerns of the little people the ones they keep ignoring all the time instead of trying to dismiss them as racist xenophobes which is completely untrue apart from the ex BNP supporters.

life was already hard for the minimum wage unskilled labourer before the mass immigration.

we have uni students who can't even get a part time job to help with their expenses because companies would rather hire immigrants.
even mcdonalds is hard to get a job at these days and is it really fair that UK jobs are not always advertised in the UK? why do we need Romanians , Bulgarian and Polish unskilled workers? why should they be put first over UK people who want to work? why should they have employment opportunities our own people don't get?

Why are these families with numerous elderly people that clearly are not capable of work allowed over here? I thought we already had a pension crisis?

Thanks to mass immigration most of us will be lucky to see retirement before we die because that retirement age is just going to keep going up and up thanks to people who take more out than they put in and we already have enough of those ourselves without welcoming more.


Skilled workers we need have always been able to come here and always will
 
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[TW]Fox;26356816 said:
, airlines have generous compensation schemes for when they randomly cancel flights and make you wait hours for the next one,.

Altough due to numerous loopholes and without going through a small claims court is very nearly impossible to claim for.
 
Altough due to numerous loopholes and without going through a small claims court is very nearly impossible to claim for.

It's nothing like being that bad, but, yes, certainly in the past airlines were very reluctant. But guess what.. this was noted and legislation being tightened in response.
 
Based on the results of these elections, it looks likely that there will be a hung parliament with Labour having the largest party. If this becomes the case, then you can forget your EU referendum and Britain will remain in the EU.

In which case, yes, roll on the general election.

Not necessarily. The conservatives would be mad not to go in coalition with UKIP and then they will have the majority.
 
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