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The store is still reporting 4 stock, I'm wondering if the listings only update when the product is picked or when one is sold at checkout?
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****Official GTX TITAN Z owners thread****
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If people weren't defending, I wouldn't have wrote what I wrote, there is no demand for Z either, oCuk hasn't sold any, Titans sold here day 1.
You also said a few weeks ago that no one uses Titans for compute and no one would use a Z for compute-they use full fat quadro's for the support they need.
Anyway, Iv'e yet to see a Titan owner say they use it for compute, they are either playing games or blowing them up benching.
Where that arguement comes unstuck is you can have 4 Titan BEs or 2 Titan Zs on a mobo meaning you can pack more compute power in with the single cards for less cost.
You also said a few weeks ago that no one uses Titans for compute and no one would use a Z for compute-they use full fat quadro's for the support they need.
Anyway, Iv'e yet to see a Titan owner say they use it for compute, they are either playing games or blowing them up benching.
I use my Titans for compute.
But only on the benchmark threads.
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For amateurs with cash on the hip a Titan Z who spend their spare time dedicated to processing complex simulation and you only have a small computer with an ITX board then you could argue there's a market as companies and professionals will still buy Telsa and Quadro cards aka commercial grade hardware for their needs but if I'm honest that's a big stretch. Why would Nvidia spend so much time and effort in building such a card for such a niche market? Is Titan Z a purely marketing exercise? If so that's a fail because it's not even as quick as it's competitors top card.
There's probably about 30 of these cards in the whole of the UK, Nvidia has set the price so high that's it's alienated it's core market. All I here from them in their recent press briefings is how they want to inter-grate their hardware into expensive/luxury cars and other high end markets, I think Nvidia has forgotten who they are and how they got here.
There's probably about 30 of these cards in the whole of the UK, Nvidia has set the price so high that's it's alienated it's core market. All I here from them in their recent press briefings is how they want to inter-grate their hardware into expensive/luxury cars and other high end markets, I think Nvidia has forgotten who they are and how they got here.
I would not touch this card even if NVidia were selling it for less than half the price. If it can not beat a 295X2 let alone a couple of 290Xs it is junk and not worth considering even on performance grounds.
When the GTX 690 came out, two of them in quad SLI could beat out quadfired HD7970s (this was when the AMD drivers were not up to it) or Quad SLI GTX 680s. Sadly the same can not be said of the Titan Z which is a poor second to single cards available from AMD and NVidia.
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But it's not really a gamer card is it? Did you all moan about the pricing of the Quadro cards over the years?
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You also said a few weeks ago that no one uses Titans for compute and no one would use a Z for compute-they use full fat quadro's for the support they need.
I cannot recall ever saying such a thing, as it's wrong.
Anyway, Iv'e yet to see a Titan owner say they use it for compute, they are either playing games or blowing them up benching.
Well, you can take my word or not, either way (as I stated previously) I know people who use Titans for computational physics research, and that's that really.
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The whole world was told that Titan Z was going to be a gamers card just look at all the marketing materials for it and what Nvidia were saying. But ignore that for a moment and lets just say Nvidia were pushing this for professional users, a Titan Z isn't a commercial grade card (the whole reason why Quadro & FirePro exists) but even putting that argument aside and look at the computational performance, it's worse then two 780 Ti's and a lot more expensive.
The only person who could want a Titan Z is an amateur/enthusiast computer programmer who likes running simulations or does complex prediction modelling (like weather forecasting) or likes folding and has zero interest in anything else. That person keeps his computer on a small desk and because it's small they use an M-ITX case so no chance of running two cards in SLI. I don't know about you but I don't know to many people like that.
There's also the fact its a "GeForce" card, why name it after your gaming brand if you're allegedly targeting professional users? Seems to me the only ones buying into that BS are the die hard fanboys trying to excuse the pricing by calling it a "pro" card, if it were a pro card it wouldn't be called Geforce.
You also said a few weeks ago that no one uses Titans for compute and no one would use a Z for compute-they use full fat quadro's for the support they need.
I only made the mistake of making a blanket statement, was only going off memory:
So what one is it or have you changed your mind?
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Goodness, I didn't realise that everything I commented on here would be recorded and used against me!
Anyway, I made that post before I knew the full technical specifications of the Titan Z and it's computational performance, so my outlook has changed slightly since then. However, indeed, if one wants the best efficiency along with excellent single and double precision capabilities then they would still get a Tesla K20/40 (on the Nvidia side), but not everyone needs such high performance and high precision computing power therefore a Titan card is a good trade-off given that they cost significantly less than the high end Tesla series (hence why people do use Titans for compute work).
I perhaps should've made it clearer in that post from a while ago that I meant researchers would not focus on getting a Titans if they needed the best of the best with regards to efficiency, precision and performance for their simulations and such. I hope that's made things clearer
I can grasp the fact that people can use Titans for compute, all I'm saying is no one here does(that I have noticed), and if you needed the compute if that's your thing, then I'm pretty sure you would maximise your rigs compute power be it 4 way 780ti or 3 way Titan for less than the cost of TitanZ-pushing one of these into a sff goes out the window for that kind of use.
The TitanZ compute angle-is 99.9% an excuse.
Nvidia shot themselves in the foot, and thought they were maintaining the 'fastest card' moniker so thought they could charge the world for it, but they underestimated AMD slapping an aio on the 295 and going full fat spec with the end result a lack of fanfare and more a whimper of a release.
OK hands up who bought the titan-z???
Only 3 left!
It was me... I'm making a upper class version of the fixer.
OK hands up who bought the titan-z???
Only 3 left!
8 pack nabbed one and is going to do naughty things to it.