Electric Bike Conversion Kit or Electric Bike?

The carerra is a better base bike than the woosh.

However, i still dont think it's a good idea using a bike so cheap and making it go a lot faster than it was designed for.
 
touch said:
The carerra is a better base bike than the woosh.

However, i still dont think it's a good idea using a bike so cheap and making it go a lot faster than it was designed for.
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Well, that kit only assists to 16mph - you could pedal the bike faster if you were so inclined, so it's not really making it go faster than it was designed for.

Any £200+ will be fine to be assisted upto 25mph. Any higher than that you really need to be looking at at least front suspension and hydraulic brakes and fat tyres.

35mph+ and you need to be considering full suspension.
 
So, I was thinking to get this bike and add this kit to it since I have heard good things about GBK:
http://www.greenbikekit.com/36v-250w...e-battery.html

with the option of having the 36V 10AH Samsung Battery and LCD so I can derestrict heheh.
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It doesn't matter if you derestrict it - that voltage and motor combination wont be able to do more that 16/17mph (read up on back emf). If you want to go 20mph you need a 48v battery.

I suggest at this point you go and have a REALLY good read on Endless Sphere for a week (or more) and learn about ebikes a bit more. You can ask questions all day but without knowing what you're talking about you wont be able to build a bike you'll be happy with or one that meets your expectations.

touch said:
The carerra is a better base bike than the woosh.

However, i still dont think it's a good idea using a bike so cheap and making it go a lot faster than it was designed for.
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Well, that kit only assists to 16mph - you could pedal the bike faster if you were so inclined, so it's not really making it go faster than it was designed for.

Any £200+ bike will be fine to be assisted upto 25mph. Any higher than that you really need to be looking at at least front suspension and hydraulic brakes and fat tyres.

35mph+ and you need to be considering full suspension.
 
Energize said:
It "can not" when the setting is 25kph.
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Yes it can, you just change the setting. Surely you understand that 'cannot' means 'physically incapable of' rather than 'cannot at the chosen setting'?

amigafan2003 said:
35mph+ and you need to be considering full suspension.
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35mph sustained or instantaneous? I reach 35 all the time on my road and hybrid bikes, neither of which have any suspension. So I presume you mean 35mph sustained.
 
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The tyres - I had 3 punctures in the first 3 days which was down to a faulty back tyre so I bought some kevlar based Schwale Silento's.

The front suspension, it became rock solid so I paid an extra £30 to have something a lot better put on.

The Zoom brakes were dangerous and they even swapped them for new ones but they also failed. I put some Avid BB7s on although BB5s would be just as good.

I've had a much better back wheel with hopefully stronger spokes. I got to work one day and got 5 broken spokes so Mrs Dimple had to pick me up.

I broke my chain twice in the first two weeks so put something a bit better on.

I now feel that I'm on an OK bike although I'm waiting for the next thing to happen.
 
Sounds like you are full of bad luck lol I've had many bikes before from 80 to £190 max. Never have I had a problem with any of them before. And I ride like mad when I RIDE so I dont know how any of them actually survived? They all had to go due to "old age" no other reason. Apart from the £190 folder bike I had which my cousin managed to break the crank off of.....who knows how it happened. But yeah.
 
ebikenewb said:
Sounds like you are full of bad luck lol I've had many bikes before from 80 to £190 max. Never have I had a problem with any of them before. And I ride like mad when I RIDE so I dont know how any of them actually survived? They all had to go due to "old age" no other reason. Apart from the £190 folder bike I had which my cousin managed to break the crank off of.....who knows how it happened. But yeah.
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Not so sure it's merely bad luck my bike had exactly the same brakes and they catastrophically failed!

As far as e-bikes go I have to say from experience you need to build your own to get the best from your money, because otherwise you will be constantly repairing the cheap pre-built one.

A decent road bike fitted with a 250W crank drive motor will do 25mph assisted no problem, I would highly recommend decent front and rear hydraulic disk brakes though because of the momentum of such a heavy and fast vehicle, and fat tyres to reduce the effect of bumps and road surface defects.

And make sure that the battery has actually been independently tested to be the capacity it claims to be, so many batteries vastly overstate their capacity.

Lastly, a throttle is invaluable if not essential, you can be pretty screwed without one if you have to start climbing a hill mid-way in a high gear!

Generally I would say £600-£800 for the base bike, another £150 on things like brakes and decent lights, and then the e-conversion kit on top, for a top of the range legal e-bike.

amigafan2003 said:
Look, we're clearly not going to agree on this (even though I'm right) so we'll just agree to disagree and if you think a bike with a "derestrict" button is legal then good luck to you.
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That's pretty arrogant given there's no case law to suggest it's illegal and it's not explicitly stated that the speed limit cannot be adjusted by the computer. But whatever, it's never going to come up in court.
 
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Energize said:
Generally I would say £600-£800 for the base bike, another £150 on things like brakes and decent lights, and then the e-conversion kit on top, for a top of the range legal e-bike.
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I know you're talking sense but I must admit my £279 Carrera Subway (now reduced to £220) is a cracking bike and I've had a good 12 months trouble free riding out of it.
 
Energize, you are defo crazy. £600 base bike? From a business perspective, your a victim of marketing and I pity people like you because you spend big money for the same quality. No offence, this is something I do know what im talking about.
 
ebikenewb said:
Energize, you are defo crazy. £600 base bike? From a business perspective, your a victim of marketing and I pity people like you because you spend big money for the same quality. No offence, this is something I do know what im talking about.
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Ok then, since you know so much, try finding me an 8kg bike with high end hydraulic disk brakes, tyres and derailleur for £200. I have to say your replies constantly come across as rude and lacking in experience and knowledge.
 
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There's a difference between NEEDS and WANTS.
You may NEED a cycle to take you from a to b. This will fit comfortably in the 200-300 £ range.
Then theres WANTS. You can have that carbon fibre, hydraulic brakes, 2kg lighter bike for £600+.
Do they do the same job? Yes.
Do they both hit decent speeds? Yes (+/-5mph)
Do they offer comfort? Yes.
Do they both stop well when the breaks are squeezed? Yes.
Do they both have two wheels and a frame? Yes.
Are you going to sleep on it? No.
Does one or both protect you from the elements? No

Why would you want to spend £500 more for a bike that does the same job?
Case rested.
Im not rude im just straight up type of guy, sorry if I come across as rude, dont mean to.
 
if you know what you are talking about, then why asking questions here?

i have put 1000 miles on the stealth .........yeah you are right we dont know what we are talking about.
 
Because you have first hand experience with the e bike I was thinking to buy. And I have first hand experience in business. Marketing especially. So I know what I'm talking about. I know where most of these ebikes come from, £500 from china, rebranded here then sold to victims of marketing for £1600. Trust me
 
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