New lows of depravity
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You are going to use the pliers to hold the marshmallows in the flame of the blowtorch, and then share toasted marshmallows with the attacker for an hour?
I don't understand how you cant see what we are saying.
What age does a woman have to be before rape becomes "twice as nasty" I don't know? I guess a persons physical and mental health isn't 100% defined by age but i expect a 90 year old to be pretty frail. I don't even know why i'm replying. Why does society get so wound up about child rape or is that the same as a 30 something woman being attacked? I guess I stereotype, to an extent, that <16 year old and >65/67(retirement age) years of age are still big mile stones in our lives and attach a level of sentiment that you don't. I think 70 80 and then 90 are the next major milestones if many live that long.
Why is she more likely to be physically damaged? If i go push 100 people down a flight of stairs of all ages I can promise you the worst effected will be the older people who's bodies are more frail and less able to repair themselves. Ever heard of hip replacements. An older persons body is not going to be able to cope with the potential aggressive nature of the attack as well as a younger one. Again why am i even answering this?
Are you saying that psychological damage doesn't matter?
Where did you pluck this one from ? Its quite horrific to have to rationalize psychological damage on people but if I had to, which It seems you need me to, ill try to. IF you had to traumatize, why am i even answering this, a group of people it would probably be accepted, by a logical group of humans that the victims of an older age would be the better choice, because they had lead fuller, longer, lives and were closer to dying. That is cold hard human judgement.
Again: why does age matter?
Well in Western society we tend to revere and care for the young and the old. I guess not so much these days, we put them in OAP homes and wait for them to slip away out of sight.
Rape is rape is rape
Murder is murder is murder except which murder is worse
7 year old Child being murdered at school.
40 Something man being murdered at his office job.
90 year old pensioner murdered in their home, asleep in her bed.
Ill wager parents of young children will go for option 1, most others 3 or 1. Very few will pick 2 or say. Murder is murder is murder.
Please don't come back thinking i'm justifying rape or trivializing it. All i'm saying is when the hideous crime happens to the more dependent, weaker members of society it amplifies the severity as it also raises questions of our failure to care for them.
You must be super stone-cold or have some letter combination to not get what im saying after that wall of text.
You must be super stone-cold or have some letter combination to not get what im saying after that wall of text.
No, I'm merely pointing out something I've observed after many years on these forums. That in the vast majority of cases where young women are raped (or have hit the news about it) every thread contains people posting along two lines: 1) they are making it up (particularly if a celeb is involved) or 2) they are at least partly to blame because they dressed the wrong way, or got drunk, or talked to a man, or similar. In all those cases, they get little sympathy.
Suddenly, however, we get a case where none of the usual apologetics can be true, so the full OcUK lynch mob can safely saddle up. I'm not saying this woman deserves less sympathy, I want to know why the other victims do. Why the assumption that this woman must necessarily get more hurt physically or mentally, just because she's old? In one case from many years ago one particular rapist used to pour superglue in his victims eyes to aid his getaway. Is that not as bad as this case? After all, his victims were younger? After a career in forensic science I've heard far worse than that as well.
No, what we have here is "blameless victim" syndrome, to contrast with cases of women between puberty and menopause who can be at least partly blamed. Or even just dismissed.
You are probably less able to deal or cope with the consequences when you are older due to the frailty and any other underlying conditions. You may be less likely to recover.
Which disgusts you more, an 18 year old having sex with a girl the day before her 16th birthday. Or a 50 year old man having sex with a 3 year old.
The law commands different severity of sentences for different degrees of depravity in a crime, to sexually assault a 90 year old woman is different in several ways - they are likely to be decrepit and unable to defend themselves, not to mention less likely to recover from such trauma. That is what makes it more depraved - almost any judge would ensure a harsher sentence for that compared to your garden variety rape, the fact you're too idiotic to see that just proves how little you know about the UK legal system and how crimes are dealt with.
Besides the point, all kinds of rapists and pedophiles are just as likely to have their balls cut off and flushed down the pan in prison.
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Yes because only attractive people can be raped.......
I find it difficult to say that it's worse because she is older. This shouldn't happen to anyone of any age or gender. I think people are more disturbed because how often are older people reported In the media as suffering this? To me it's as repulsive as a young person being raped but I can see why others view it different.
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Seriously..?
Disgusting, I sincerely hope they catch and torture the culprit.
Although the 2 references to Jimmy Saville elsewhere on the page did get a little smirk.
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Sickening it is, but I will have to agree with these 2 posts. I remember on the news a few years back a 92 y/o was raped by a 17 y/o.
WUT? Is someone at our company related to her?
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while this is definitely a real phenomenon, there is another edge to that sword; false accusations. people will always be biased by their misconceptions, and yes it's mortifying that some of these sickos get away with it, but at the same time there are likely people serving sentences for a crime they didn't commit.
I personally think any tightening of laws to stop rapists 'slipping through the net' would also ensure more falsely accused defendants were found guilty.
wholeheartedly agree with this statement, I'm struggling to see why anyone would be more deserving of compassion than any other demographic
No, but the Manchester Evening News tends to get involved in local issues. Not seen them offer a reward before though.