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More nonsense. You have nothing constructive to say. All you're doing is straw manning everything, being rude and dismissive and unreasonable. I'm done talking to you now. If you're also a last word freak, well fill your boots, I won't reply.

Ah just the usual point dodging then instead of debate, just how your website works no doubt.
 
I will just keep watching Christopher Hitchens on YouTube thanks.

Good man. Hitch was quite remarkable. Has to be one of the greatest intellects of modern times. I'm part through his memoirs right now, Hitch 22. Pretty sure I've seen 99% of his YT vids. The guy was amazing.
 
What are his qualifications regarding the philosophies and ideologies that he is allegedly teaching?

Is he producing material that anyone cannot find out for free or themselves with a little research of their own?

Aside for the usual arguments over the definitions and redefinition of Atheism, Agnosticism et al, why should anyone donate to the man in the OP, what unique perspective does he have over that of a wide range of highly qualified and professional philosophers, linguists and theologians?
 
Anyone who has said atheism is a belief system, think about the following.

What is your position on unicorns? You don't believe they exist right? Does that mean you have a belief system regarding unicorns? No, it does not.

Atheism is the same but for supernatural deities. Burden of proof lies with the person who asserts the claim, not the one who rejects it. Therefore there is no need to hold a belief (i.e. a belief system) in order to not believe in something.

Anyone who says that how i've described atheism in the previous paragraph is actually agnosticism needs to check a dictionary
 
Atheist's should educate and preach to religious people. Maybe one day the whole world will be clued up then.

If someone explains to you carbon dating, evolution and the point that religion is only luck where your brought up, yet you still have the same religious views, then I would find you ignorant and quite stupid ( well maybe mentally stubborn ).

It's becoming that simple. So much information and knowledge out there. How can people not understand.

If I was extremely religious and someone pointed out to me "Hey buddy, what if you were brought up in a tribe that has no religion or belief system". As you are raised nobody mutters the word Jesus or Allah. Would you still be as you are today? "Hmm, nope. cheers thanks for enlightening me, I will be having a rethink". Its quite black and white to me.
 
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What are his qualifications regarding the philosophies and ideologies that he is allegedly teaching?

Is he producing material that anyone cannot find out for free or themselves with a little research of their own?

Aside for the usual arguments over the definitions and redefinition of Atheism, Agnosticism et al, why should anyone donate to the man in the OP, what unique perspective does he have over that of a wide range of highly qualified and professional philosophers, linguists and theologians?

As with all newbies, I direct you to a wiki page. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/AronRa . If you're genuinely interested, you will read it. If after reading it you are still curious, look him up on YouTube. I think he's got nearly 200 videos.
 
Anyone who has said atheism is a belief system, think about the following.

What is your position on unicorns? You don't believe they exist right? Does that mean you have a belief system regarding unicorns? No, it does not.

Atheism is the same but for supernatural deities. Burden of proof lies with the person who asserts the claim, not the one who rejects it. Therefore there is no need to hold a belief (i.e. a belief system) in order to not believe in something.

Anyone who says that how i've described atheism in the previous paragraph is actually agnosticism needs to check a dictionary

If you are also making a claim in that rejection (ie There is no God) then the burden is also on you.

As far as Agnosticism/Atheism goes, it is pretty much how the individual defines themselves that is important as to all intents and purposes each overlaps and there are contrasting and contradicting views as far as definitions are concerned. Academically speaking, an atheist rejects God rather than the just the belief in God and an Agnostic simply doesn't have a belief or rejection either way. The rejection itself is explicit, and therein lies the fundamental difference between an Atheist and an Agnostic. One rejects the belief and the subject of that belief and therefore rejects acceptance thereof, the other has neither acceptance nor rejection of the belief or subject. (I am referring to the concept of God rather than any given specificity regarding that concepts nature).
 
Castiel, as you are Christian I wonder what your thoughts are on the evolution of the human skull?

How does Jesus and Genesis fit in with Apes?

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As with all newbies, I direct you to a wiki page. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/AronRa . If you're genuinely interested, you will read it. If after reading it you are still curious, look him up on YouTube. I think he's got nearly 200 videos.

You mistake me. I know who he is, I am simply at a loss as to why there is good reason to fund this individual over a whole range of other, arguably better qualified commentators on philosophy.

What actual qualification, other than his personal interest and opinion does he hold over other readily available sources on atheism and its attendant philosophies and ideologies?
 
As I'm not a Christian, you question is eminently flawed to begin with...perhaps you should ask a Creationist.

1-0 you. I thought you were Christian. OK any devout Christians/Muslims/Others here, if man was created how do you explain human skull evolution? I cannot grasp how you can dismiss it.
 
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You mistake me. I know who he is, I am simply at a loss as to why there is good reason to fund this individual over a whole range of other, arguably better qualified commentators on philosophy.

What actual qualification, other than his personal interest and opinion does he hold over other readily available sources on atheism and its attendant philosophies and ideologies?

Appeal to authority fallacy. Only the qualified can speak publically in your eyes and therefore the rest are not worthy of donations. Ridiculous attitude you have. If you'd seen the work he does in America, the debates he has, the YT videos he makes, and if you had bothered (which clearly you haven't or if you have, you're just selectively ignoring the salient points, which is what you do in your posts here constantly) to watch his patreon video in the OP's post, then you wouldn't need to ask why to donate.

It's an appeal for donations to people who understand the work he does. It's not a begging charity video to fund his Big Mac addiction.
 
1-0 to you. I thought you were Christian. OK any devout Christians here, if Man was created what is this human skull evolution that we see?

I am Agnostic (Ignostic to be precise).

You want to be asking devout Creationists rather than all Christians, the majority of Christianity accept Evolution within their theology so the question wouldn't really be relevant to them either.
 
Appeal to authority fallacy. Only the qualified can speak publically in your eyes and therefore the rest are not worthy of donations. Ridiculous attitude you have. If you'd seen the work he does in America, the debates he has, the YT videos he makes, and if you had bothered (which clearly you haven't or if you have, you're just selectively ignoring the salient points, which is what you do in your posts here constantly) to watch his patreon video in the OP's post, then you wouldn't need to ask why to donate.

It's an appeal for donations to people who understand the work he does. It's not a begging charity video to fund his Big Mac addiction.

That's not what I said, so you have simply created a strawman and added in an ad hominem to boot...


To be clear, everyone is entirely within their remit to speak publicly about their beliefs and philosophies... I have watched quite a few of L. Ron Nelsons videos and read some of his blogs and contributions to other debates and so on, and I have no real problem with his arguments and opinions against Creationism. (Rather than religion, which as a rule he doesn't do).

However, the question remains, what qualifies him over others who do the same work (and who are often more accessible, renowned and knowledgable within the theological and Scientific structures of the arguments therein who can and do fund themselves through their work) that we, as in the general public, should do as the OP requests? Particularly here in the UK where evolution is widely accepted within the vast majority of the religious community?

That doesn't preclude anyone else from donating nor judging anyone for doing so, or not as the case may be...it is asking, quite simply why?

Its a valid question, one which deserves more than simply a rationalwiki link.
 
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