She needs to be stopped!!!

Antony101 said:
It does good because only people that hunt are willing to pay to keep these animals alive.

The only reason most of these animals are there to be hunted is because hunters pay a fortune in fees and membership so that they can increase the number of these animals.
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Malt_Vinegar said:
It about catering to a market. Hunters pay big money to hunt the top animals. So, if you breed and look after them in your area of land, they actually breed well are protected from poachers and the numbers can be managed carefully. You can prevent over-hunting and this allows the species to re-populate. The hunters are usually only allowed to pick off the older males to keep the population in check. This allows the females to raise litters safely without new males killing all the cubs to force the females back into heat. Then these young individuals can be sold or traded to other hunting areas or zoos, and allow a diversification of genes and a more healthy population.

On a simplistic level, shooting an endangered species sounds like a bad idea, but it's only 1 part of the story :)
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How bizarre, thanks for making that clear guys.

Seems a shame that one of the effective way of saving a species is by getting money from those who kill for sport though...
 
SkodaMart said:
Of course it stands!!

We are lucky to be able to choose a vegetarian diet in the UK.

Many countries throughout the world rely on meat to survive, fish especially.
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It stands in a context irrelevant to this thread you mean. I don't think anyone here has complained about some 3rd world tribe hunting a deer for food. People have issues with hunting when it is unnecessary.

OhEsEcks said:
Meat provides more protein per serving than veg, fruit, nuts and whatever else you need to substitute a tasty steak with. The problem is we then have to cut down huge tracks of land to farm for veganism. So the solution is to eat vegans. Logic.
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Do you realise how much land is needed to grow crops to feed animals which we then eat, and how wasteful of land that is? The ignorance beggars belief!
 
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Tefal said:
animals are stupid and wil lhapily eat al ltier food, **** and multiply and then die of starvation, if they have a limited environment you have to control their numbers.
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Pretty much. There was a **** storm when they re-introduced wolves back into Yellowstone in the US from ranchers and the like. But it was the only effective way of controlling the deer and elk populations which were out of control and destroying huge tracks of land. I don't think they could find enough hunters to make a proper dent on the populations.

Ranchers and farmers originally killed off all the wolves to protect burger meat and vegetables. Deer and elk got out of control. By the 60s they were already debating bringing back wolves for animal management. It took until the 90s to implement it. Since they implemented it, many native species of vegatation are thriving again.

Same thing happens with boar. There are companies in the US dedicated to boar control. Some even use helicopters to cover more ground and bag more per hunt. You can pay to go on these hunts, you keep the company in business, provide a service to ranchers and farmers, and get delicious boar bacon at the end.
 
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SkodaMart said:
Killing off the beasts is all part of man kinds destruction of the world.

Seems this girl is some spoilt little rich girl, who shoots from safety, it's not hunting, it's murder.

What if that's what we all decided to do?

It's totally irresponsible.
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If we all decided to do it then there would be more of these animals, sounds like a good thing.
 
SkodaMart said:
What gives you the right to life more than any other animal?

Are you something special?
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The ability to walk upright, opposable thumbs, the ability to make fire, use tools, harness electricitiy, manufacture explosive, and kill things that should be able to kill us gives us the right to life more than anything else.

Now stop it.
 
SkodaMart said:
What gives you the right to life more than any other animal?

Are you something special?
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1. Animals are not people (yes)
2. We already kill animals so you're either against eating meat in the west completely or you're a hypocrite
3. People are not endagered
 
cheesyboy said:
Are you a vegetarian, Skoda?
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I always choose the vegetarian option, and avoid meat as much as possible.

I'm not a strict vegetarian no.

Organic milk, eggs, cheese etc.

We don't need anything like as much animal protein in our diet as people eat.
 
Tombo said:
1. Animals are not people (yes)
2. We already kill animals so you're either against eating meat in the west completely or you're a hypocrite
3. People are not endagered
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1) What makes people so special? Many of them make me sick with contempt.

2) Eating meat for food is OK.

3) Let's hunt away then ;)
 
Tombo said:
1. Animals are not people (yes)
2. We already kill animals so you're either against eating meat in the west completely or you're a hypocrite
3. People are not endagered
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1. People are Animals
2. Killing to eat and killing for fun are contextually different and there is no hypocrisy in doing the former and opposing the latter. That's like saying you can't condemn drink drivers if you own a car and have some cold beers in the fridge.
3. So if they were, you would support the hunting of them [people]? Furthermore, according to the WWF lions aren't endangered either.
 
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OhEsEcks said:
The ability to walk upright, opposable thumbs, the ability to make fire, use tools, harness electricitiy, manufacture explosive, and kill things that should be able to kill us gives us the right to life more than anything else.

Now stop it.
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Think about it for a second, we like to think we are special because we possess rational thinking.

Look at violence then look at chimps when they get violent. Notice how their mannerisms resemble those of humans.

We also completely **** up the planet continuously in the pursuit of profit.

Are we really that special compared to an animal?
 
SkodaMart said:
Killing off the beasts is all part of man kinds destruction of the world.

Seems this girl is some spoilt little rich girl, who shoots from safety, it's not hunting, it's murder.

What if that's what we all decided to do?

It's totally irresponsible.
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well no shes participating in animal number control if this didnt happen ALL the animals would die.


option a) no number control, animals eat all their food, and die out

b) the staff alone do the killing, numbers controlled but the place goes out of business, the land is sold all the animals die

option C) let rich people come in and hunt, the numbers are controlled the park stays open the animals live

which option should the reserves be using inj your opinion?
 
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