Upcoming games to support DirectX

bru · 10 Jul 2014 at 23:25

Uncle Petey said:
Considering that there are only two current titles that can use it.....

Regardless of that, this was an admitted and obvious troll thread to start with and there was no discussion point in the op anyway.

There are three Mantle games out at present, (BF4, Thief and Plants v Zombies).

The opening poster did not admit to this being a thread created mostly for a laugh until post 89.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26584232&postcount=89

tayto_0 · 10 Jul 2014 at 23:32

You're wrong. On the very first page, post 26 he admits it.

PhysicsMan94 · 10 Jul 2014 at 23:47

Indeed, it was mainly for a bit of banter (something a lot of you can't take it seems), but there was also a point to it as I explained here:

PhysicsMan94 said:
Even though this thread was created mostly for a laugh (and I got a few from some of the replies) there is still a message we can take home from this...

There are plenty of bloody good reasons why all those developers are still using Direct3D for their game development, the main overall one being that DirectX is a very good API - yes it has it's faults (as does everything in the world of programming), but considering it has to enable input functionality, graphical rendering and more for thousands of different hardware configurations out there for thousands of different style games, it does a pretty darn good job.

It also has the added support from the tonnes of documentation on it on the internet as well as support from Microsoft experts if required, as well as the fact that it was largely created by Microsoft themselves whom also design the operating systems that basically all of our games run on - an obvious advantage from a technical understanding viewpoint.

So, whilst the AMD proponents run amok on these forums shouting from the rooftops about how terrible DirectX is, just remember which API has supported PC gaming all these years and will continue to do so for years to come. If it weren't for DirectX and it's continual (albeit, a little slow I admit) development, I doubt PC gaming would be anywhere near as large as it is today (and thus Mantle likely wouldn't have ever been created). Also remember that both Nvidia and AMD pledge their full support towards DirectX and continue to do so with DirectX 12, a testament to the fact that DX is a very good API.

bru · 10 Jul 2014 at 23:58

tayto_0 said:
You're wrong. On the very first page, post 26 he admits it.

Fair enough.

Uncle Petey · 11 Jul 2014 at 00:26

bru said:
There are three Mantle games out at present, (BF4, Thief and Plants v Zombies).

The opening poster did not admit to this being a thread created mostly for a laugh until post 89.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=26584232&postcount=89

I stand corrected. PvZ isn't exactly on my radar tbh

It doesn't even matter when or whether the OP admitted it, as it was pretty blatant from the start. Did you really not get it until post 89?

PhysicsMan, your post suggests that people interested in Mantle are anti-DX or something and for some reason, it troubles you to see a thread mentioning upcoming Mantle games.

If that's the general gist of it, then you really are trying too hard and again, I'd really have to ask why you felt strongly enough about a thread discussing future Mantle titles that you went to the trouble in the first place, much less come up with this over dramatic, pro DX waffle to justify it?

tayto_0 · 11 Jul 2014 at 00:30

PhysicsMan94 said:
Indeed, it was mainly for a bit of banter (something a lot of you can't take it seems), but there was also a point to it as I explained here:

Nothing good ever comes from threads like these and with all due respect 99.9% of us on these forums didn't need to be told that message. Everyone is well aware of what DX has done for us.

Honestly though, you've got to stop reading every positive Mantle story as a DX negative.

What is funny though, is that since Mantle Nvidia users (not all) now can't heap enough praise upon Microsoft and DX when before Mantle they were shoulder to shoulder with ATI/AMD users in their disdain for them. DirectX is probably more popular then ever and it's all down to Mantle

PhysicsMan94 · 11 Jul 2014 at 00:46

Uncle Petey said:
PhysicsMan, your post suggests that people interested in Mantle are anti-DX or something and for some reason, it troubles you to see a thread mentioning upcoming Mantle games.

Nope, not all, but there are certainly a few members on this sub-forum who feel the need to bad mouth DirectX at every opportunity. I just want to make sure that people don't take such nonsense seriously, never been a fan of people spreading slander and lies.

Uncle Petey said:
If that's the general gist of it, then you really are trying too hard and again, I'd really have to ask why you felt strongly enough about a thread discussing future Mantle titles that you went to the trouble in the first place, much less come up with this over dramatic, pro DX waffle to justify it?

I don't need, nor do I want, to justify the creation of this thread to you, as I stated it was mainly for humour and it seems I made a few people laugh - and I have also got quite a few laughs out of the replies to be honest

Anyway, it is clear that you do not agree with the principle of this thread nor do you like it. I strongly urge you to either peer to the top left of your browser and tap/click the back button, or report my original post if you feel so strongly about it

PhysicsMan94 · 11 Jul 2014 at 00:53

tayto_0 said:
What is funny though, is that since Mantle Nvidia users (not all) now can't heap enough praise upon Microsoft and DX when before Mantle they were shoulder to shoulder with ATI/AMD users in their disdain for them. DirectX is probably more popular then ever and it's all down to Mantle

I cannot speak for anyone else and I have not really paid much attention to other members attitudes' towards Microsoft, but I have never shown any disdain for Microsoft nor have I slandered DirectX. The products and services that Microsoft provide (to me at least) are excellent and that is why I continue to use them and hence why I do not bad mouth them.

But, for some reason, within the past few years it has become "hip and cool" to jump on the "hating Microsoft" bandwagon - it probably spawned from the Apple fanboys sitting around in Starbucks talking loudly about some bs whilst sipping their iced frappés and typing up humanities essays on their "MacBook Airs".

humbug · 11 Jul 2014 at 00:59

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Apparently my CVF-Z has borked dimm slots (not that surprising after I pushed 2.25vcore during the end of the LN2 run) :

All slots give the same code

So FXs are out. I can do 4770K without HT ( = i5) or something. Or if someone has an i7 and a 290/290X then that would work too.

i5 are still way faster in what we are doing here, can you take it to the existing Thief thread please, its not fair to drag the thread off topic, thanks

Although this thread looks like its deteriorated pretty badly

Uncle Petey · 11 Jul 2014 at 01:49

PhysicsMan94 said:
Nope, not all, but there are certainly a few members on this sub-forum who feel the need to bad mouth DirectX at every opportunity. I just want to make sure that people don't take such nonsense seriously, never been a fan of people spreading slander and lies.

Such as?

I don't need, nor do I want, to justify the creation of this thread to you, as I stated it was mainly for humour and it seems I made a few people laugh - and I have also got quite a few laughs out of the replies to be honest

Anyway, it is clear that you do not agree with the principle of this thread nor do you like it. I strongly urge you to either peer to the top left of your browser and tap/click the back button, or report my original post if you feel so strongly about it

Maybe not to me, but you obviously felt the need to justify it to someone or you wouldn't have written the speech.

PhysicsMan94 · 11 Jul 2014 at 02:09

Uncle Petey said:
Such as?

I will not name any names, that is against the forum rules.

Uncle Petey · 11 Jul 2014 at 02:15

Where does it say that in the rules?

Marine-RX179 · 11 Jul 2014 at 06:58

Uncle Petey said:
Where does it say that in the rules?

Don't waste you time, considering it is his logic to think that people pointing out the limitations and criticising the short-comings of directx (that are proven to be true) and not hugging and kissing it equal to bad-mouthing directx, and that's clearly driving him nuts.

I will say this again...this thread is pointless. Had the OP made the thread as "Upcoming games to support PhysX", at least it would somewhat be useful in helping people in making graphic card purchase decisions...

In fact, a sticky that include both lists, plus may be a list of Gaming Evolved vs TWIMTBP in a single thread doesn't sounds like a half-bad idea...

triss · 11 Jul 2014 at 07:07

IMO if you think a thread is pointless or is a troll thread dont post,posting implies the thread was infact humorous and warranted a reply or was infact useful/caught your interest enough for you to reply therefore not pointless , best way to stop troll's is not to feed them.
To the OP thanks for the list of games out this year got a few marked for my will see how they go list

Marine-RX179 · 11 Jul 2014 at 07:30

triss said:
IMO if you think a thread is pointless or is a troll thread dont post,posting implies the thread was infact humorous and warranted a reply or was infact useful/caught your interest enough for you to reply therefore not pointless.

Not true, considering it wouldn't be the first time that threads ran its cause getting lock/removed.

I was in fact encouraging Uncle Petey to ignore him and stop responding to him. If he could abandon thread, it would probably be even better

uksoldierboy · 11 Jul 2014 at 07:35

PhysicsMan94 said:
I will not name any names, that is against the forum rules.

Name and Shame them!!!

I'll do it,

Gregster when you see this, please understand that it is but a joke and in no way do i think your a fanboy or words to that effect.

Please don't ban me.

oldestgregg · 11 Jul 2014 at 08:02

uksoldierboy said:
Name and Shame them!!!

I'll do it,

Gregster when you see this, please understand that it is but a joke and in no way do i think your a fanboy or words to that effect.

Please don't ban me.

triss · 11 Jul 2014 at 08:11

nice one,,I'd imagine you will be safe ,Greg enjoys a good laugh like most of us. and if not Well its been nice knowing you

Rusty0611 · 11 Jul 2014 at 08:52

Those knees.

Gregster · 11 Jul 2014 at 09:42

uksoldierboy said:
Gregster when you see this, please understand that it is but a joke and in no way do i think your a fanboy or words to that effect.

Please don't ban me.

Haha Brilliant Reece and definitely no offence taken.

As far as the thread goes, I have found it pretty useful. Most of them games I have not heard of, so did some looking and quite a few there have got my interest.

For those who are calling it a troll thread, I see it as the same as the Mantle games thread. Both are APIs, both are games, so if one should be closed, then so should the other. Is it really worth getting this upset over? And I mean either thread? I seriously worry for you guys at times...

If you feel people are trolling baiting, feel free to report them using the RTM system or just ignore them.