Religion has killed more people than malaria?
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Religion has killed more people than malaria?
People who have faith have rejected logic, so it's useless to use logic as a counter-argument. They've rejected all forms of thought - that's the essence of faith. It's a clever move - if you take a position based on nothing and reject all thought and all evidence as part of your position, then nobody can argue against your position. It's generally derided or seen as a form of mental illness if it's something other than an approved religion, but religion has enormous special status so it's different. Somehow.
That sounds highly unlikely to me too, and I think that religion is a horrible thing that humanity would be far better off without. It's killed many people, but I'm sure it has nothing on malaria when it comes to a death count. The dead from malaria would fill a continent. Religion fosters division and dehumanisation and violence and an utter lack of morality, but I'd bet that there's a dozen diseases that have killed more people.
Religion hasn't killed anyone....people do that. That's like blaming the gun for the actions of the shooter.
Religion can foster division and dehumanisation in the wrong the hands, it can also foster the opposite in the right hands...it isn't rational to blame the tools for the poor skills if the workman.
Religion can foster division and dehumanisation in the wrong the hands, it can also foster the opposite in the right hands...it isn't rational to blame the tools for the poor skills if the workman.
Even the demons believe—and tremble! James 2:19. Also it depends on your definition of faith. The Bible does note that faith is neither blind nor illogical.
I think the Bible thinks faith is something different from what the rest of humanity thinks it is...
kedge the Bible is not a very valid source to be frank. Why does it note that? What is logical about it?
This website is full of atheists which puts Kedge and me in the minority and always out numbered and ridiculed.
It doesnt bother me as like Kedge i know that what you say wont change my views and vice versa. We will always be attacked for our strong faith. Thing is, you dont see me attacking you for your 'beliefs'. Or lack of them!
To a Christian, the Bible 'is' a valid source and unless you have the faith that makes a Christian you will always bad mouth anything that is Bible related.
Castiel is probably the only guy on here who is understanding of a Christians view / standpoint.
It doesnt bother me as like Kedge i know that what you say wont change my views and vice versa. We will always be attacked for our strong faith. Thing is, you dont see me attacking you for your 'beliefs'. Or lack of them!
To a Christian, the Bible 'is' a valid source and unless you have the faith that makes a Christian you will always bad mouth anything that is Bible related.
Castiel is probably the only guy on here who is understanding of a Christians view / standpoint.
I'm an atheist but have no problem with you holding Christian values or beliefs.
What I do have a problem with is when people use those beliefs to justify discriminating against others, prejudice or intolerance. It's not the simple fact that you have a belief that many oppose, it's how that belief is utilised.
I know many accepting, charitable & kind Christians who are a fantastic example of religious people following the good & using modern ethics to discard the bad.
I have highlighted the part that given the Teachings that Jesus set forth, using those beliefs to justify such actions would essentially be unchristian.
Why is it not a valid source?, what is illogical about it?. It's not for YOU? perhaps? but for others it is a life source, a gift from God, with the right attitude and heart condition one sees things from another perspective, God's perspective, it reveals much about ourselves and this world in which we live and an understanding of the troubles in the world and of the one who causes much trouble and the only way out of this complete and utter mess.
Thats just the point, you dont understand the Bible! That is why you have made the comment you have!
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-oh hang on, I forgot they need to breed. Let's make a rib woman.
Just from the first few pages of Genesis, you arrive at two things that cannot be believed by a thinking person.
Do you take it all literally?
Millions, not just a person.
Not necessarily, mostly it is simply the interpretation that falls apart when put under scrutiny, often by using the scripture itself to illustrate the inherent errors in such interpretation and extrapolations.
The Bible is a valid historical source aside from the theological and spiritual element that the scripture represents. It is used across a myriad of academic disciplines including linguistics, archaeology and History. It can both support and contradict other sources of evidence depending upon the context and nature of that, but that doesn't mean it is not a valuable and valid source of information and knowledge.
And this is a good example of the interpretation being the issue rather than the actual scripture.
Again, that would still be the issue with the Interpretation of the Scripture rather than the Scripture itself.
I think you are referring to someone else here, as I never stated that just because people believe a thing makes that thing The Truth.