IT role, wage question
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Takehome £1152.89 a month
Rent £282
Bills ~£150
Food ~£150
£570 left - 11 * £50 nights out
it can be sometimes... though it can also simply be that there are relatively few people on the market with the right experience... when the software is poorly documented (plenty of financial software is) then just having someone who knows the basics can be valuable. Some of the contractor rates can be a bit ridiculous... some fintech companies have grown rapidly and have clauses in place to retain staff... if the guys who can support XYZ trading platform are as rare as rocking horse **** but some parts of the front office rely on it then banks will pay rather large sums to get the right people.
Takehome £1152.89 a month
Rent £282
Bills ~£150
Food ~£150
£570 left - 11 * £50 nights out = £550 = £20
+ Clothes
+Items like toothpaste
+ Petrol
Again, how the hell do you survive?
You having a laugh. £570 a month left for clothes and toothpaste? (I dont have a car)
£50 a week on clothes (which I dont even spend now) leaves £354 - 354 tubes of aquafresh?
Actually, I calculated last month I lived on £500 after rent & bills (Ive been pumping money into savings to cover holidays to pay for in August, September and October)
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There are hundreds of thousands surviving on min wage (or less in the case of benefits) - don't be so condescending.
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Takehome £1152.89 a month
Rent £282
Bills ~£150
Food ~£150
£570 left - 11 * £50 nights out
£282 rent...
yeh? £282 x 4 (there was 4 in the house)
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5 months total work experience, a level 3 NVQ and he's in South Wales and you reckon £17k a year? I'd be absolutely amazed personally.
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15k if your lucky, he may drop you for someone he can keep paying £5 an hour
What's the minimum that you're prepared to accept? Will you leave the business if you don't get what you want? Will the company have trouble replacing you for the same value, if you were to leave?
And, do you think your boss is open to increasing your wage (beyond the required minimum wage increase when you hit 21, which will actually be a substantial percentage), or not? Have you ever had a discussion about this before?
And, do you think your boss is open to increasing your wage (beyond the required minimum wage increase when you hit 21, which will actually be a substantial percentage), or not? Have you ever had a discussion about this before?
Many people have to survive on the minimum wage.
The hourly rates are 21 and over £6.31, 18 to 20 £5.03, Under 18 £3.72 and apprentice £2.68.
A million adult workers receive the minimum wage and another two million within 50 pence of it.
Not everyone is as fortunate as yourself.
I congratulate you on your choice of words. I'd like to say, 'See you next Tuesday.' It's this sort of attitude that explains so many peoples ill-feelings towards high earners - isn't there another thread on the subject?
As far as the OP - what the others have said: go high and be prepared to settle lower. Have evidence of comparable positions to back up what you want. However, I expect your employer will wish to keep you at minimum wage.
Good luck!
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Don't forget to consider non-wage aspects of the package. How much holiday leave you'll have, sickness arrangements, etc. In particular look at pensions. You'll need proper advice on this but you should try to get pension contributions from your employer to your own personal pension scheme. The more money you put in your pension now, the better.
Don't be afraid to say something along the lines of, "Thank you, that sounds very acceptable, but I'll want to go through the details just to make sure."
Don't be afraid to say something along the lines of, "Thank you, that sounds very acceptable, but I'll want to go through the details just to make sure."
I had a chat with my boss about this yesterday, and has come back to me today wanting me to stay on minimum wage which will increase next month when I turn 21.
I asked for at least living wage (roughly £7.50) and his argument was that the costs of living in my area weren't that high (lol) and other jobs in the area are paying roughly what he's offering because of my experience.
On a positive note he did offer to send me on a few networking courses, with a possible pay rise in 6 months depending on how I'm doing in the role.
I don't really know how I feel to be honest, I've looked at other jobs in the area and it seems like he's pulled his proposed figure out of his arse. I know I haven't got much experience, but surely it'll be better for him to just give me a respectable wage than have me leaving and his business stagnating.
I asked for at least living wage (roughly £7.50) and his argument was that the costs of living in my area weren't that high (lol) and other jobs in the area are paying roughly what he's offering because of my experience.
On a positive note he did offer to send me on a few networking courses, with a possible pay rise in 6 months depending on how I'm doing in the role.
I don't really know how I feel to be honest, I've looked at other jobs in the area and it seems like he's pulled his proposed figure out of his arse. I know I haven't got much experience, but surely it'll be better for him to just give me a respectable wage than have me leaving and his business stagnating.
That's pretty much what I expected to be honest given your qualifications, experience and the area you live in.
Improve your CV by gaining some experience (get 1 year then start looking for something else) in your current role and gaining more qualifications, then apply for something better.
Improve your CV by gaining some experience (get 1 year then start looking for something else) in your current role and gaining more qualifications, then apply for something better.
Ill put it this way. If was still in south wales, lets say Cardiff and i moved back today, i would be expecting about 25-27k.
I have the below experience
24, a 2:1hons in computer science
Worked 3 years in IT
Loads of VMware experience
Loads of Citrix experience
A CCNA and an MCITP
Experience with supporting printers, network hardware, physical pcs and virtual.
I made the desktop image we use in work that 1000 people use
I dont think this guy is getting more than 17k to be honest.
Please dont take this the wrong way im just saying lets be realistic here
Edit:Apologies i just saw your update
Im not sure about this one really. I have a lot of friends in Cwmbran (where im from) and i think you would do better moving and getting a proper "1st /2nd line" support job for a decent sized company in cardiff.
For a job like that you should be able to get 17k i would say.
I mean i worked in greggs while i was in uni and when i lived in south wales and the rate was 6.40 in 2010.
I have the below experience
24, a 2:1hons in computer science
Worked 3 years in IT
Loads of VMware experience
Loads of Citrix experience
A CCNA and an MCITP
Experience with supporting printers, network hardware, physical pcs and virtual.
I made the desktop image we use in work that 1000 people use
I dont think this guy is getting more than 17k to be honest.
Please dont take this the wrong way im just saying lets be realistic here
Edit:Apologies i just saw your update
Im not sure about this one really. I have a lot of friends in Cwmbran (where im from) and i think you would do better moving and getting a proper "1st /2nd line" support job for a decent sized company in cardiff.
For a job like that you should be able to get 17k i would say.
I mean i worked in greggs while i was in uni and when i lived in south wales and the rate was 6.40 in 2010.
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