Voice your opposition to the Israeli actions for the past 65+ years

If i was near by i would go.

We all know who the culprits are, UK and US. Controlled by the Jews. Jews got them in their pockets.

Like i said in the other thread. Israel ambition is to exterminate Palestine. Then do the exact same thing to neighboring countries as they want to create a Greater Israel. Zionist the lot of them.

Israel should be done for War crimes and genocide.
 
Sho said:
If i was near by i would go.

We all know who the culprits are, UK and US. Controlled by the Jews. Jews got them in their pockets.

Like i said in the other thread. Israel ambition is to exterminate Palestine. Then do the exact same thing to neighboring countries as they want to create a Greater Israel. Zionist the lot of them.

Israel should be done for War crimes and genocide.
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Are you serious or trolling ?
 
RDM said:
This seems to be somewhat untrue, there is plenty of criticism of Israel on many media channels without the anti-Semitism card being played.

Of course you just have to look at the other thread about Israel/Palestine to see a couple of the posters veer from blaming Israel to blaming Jews to see that sometimes accusations of anti-Semitism are actually warranted.
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It depends on the media channel or the circle. In some circles you are indeed correct but the coupling of anit-Semitism & anti-Zionism has quite clearly being a deliberate tactic to draw away criticism. The reference was more geared towards American media as they are the key unconditional supporters of the state of Israel (usually at odds with the U.N)

I also do agree with your final point, there is a population of people who really are racist & hate them for simply being Jewish which doesn't help either.

Xordium said:
Correct and people are strangely quiet on the actions of the Islamic countries that are complicit with the actions of Israel and yet feel free to take any pot shot they can at Israel.
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To be fair, you get people who do the exact polar opposite. Bigots with an agenda should be ignored from both sides of the argument. Sadly they seem so numerous on this subject it's very difficult to have a meaningful debate on the matter.
 
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Sho said:
If i was near by i would go.

We all know who the culprits are, UK and US. Controlled by the Jews. Jews got them in their pockets.

Like i said in the other thread. Israel ambition is to exterminate Palestine. Then do the exact same thing to neighboring countries as they want to create a Greater Israel. Zionist the lot of them.

Israel should be done for War crimes and genocide.
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Go and do what? You'd be killed for nothing.

And forget isis, al Qaeda in maghrib just declared there caliphate illegal. So now they'll be killing Sunnis too.

It's all a cluster**** stay away from it.
 
Sliver said:
That doesn't even make sense. You're contradicting yourself. Israel are targeting militants, but those militants, cowards that they are, are using their own civilians as shields. You seem to be suggesting Israel is targeting civilians. Sorry bud, but only Hamas does that deliberately and without remorse.
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So Hamas are forcing Israel's hand and making them fire into civilian areas? Because we all know that if Israel shows restraint and doesn't blow up schools etc, Hamas will effectively wipe out entire Israeli towns with their fireworks.

At best, the fairest argument is that both sides are wrong, but there's more of a responsibility on Israel's part due to their strength. Both sides are probably guilty of war crimes. The only side however worth supporting are the Palestinian civilians, who seem to take the brunt - as always - of Israeli punishment.
 
Sho said:
If i was near by i would go.

We all know who the culprits are, UK and US. Controlled by the Jews. Jews got them in their pockets.

Like i said in the other thread. Israel ambition is to exterminate Palestine. Then do the exact same thing to neighboring countries as they want to create a Greater Israel. Zionist the lot of them.

Israel should be done for War crimes and genocide.
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This is not about Jews as such.
 
B&W said:
Go and do what? You'd be killed for nothing.

And forget isis, al Qaeda in maghrib just declared there caliphate illegal. So now they'll be killing Sunnis too.

It's all a cluster**** stay away from it.
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That whole mess is a joke.
 
I lean more towards the side of the Palestinians. They are the ones who have been displaced by an influx of people determined on aggressive occupation.

That said, I don't believe there are any innocents in this conflict (except for some of the children obviously). However I do believe that Israel are heavy handed in their retaliation. 200 Palestinians does not equal one Israeli.
 
I liked Israel much more before Likud realised that keeping tensions high caused voters to back the bellicose party that promised revenge and safety bought at the price of Palestinian lives, at least a third of Israeli voters hate their govts stance, most people who think they hate Israel really hate Likud and Benny the nutter who leads it.

All the nations in that region had their borders created by England and France after the conquest of the Ottoman Empire with oil as their guiding light, if only the tight fisted loons had thought to pay for the Palestinian lands or the UN had put peace keepers in in the 60's.

There's still hope though, equal distribution of the coastal oil and gas fields could make Palestine as good a place to live as Libya used to be.
 
Theophany said:
I'm pretty sure I'll get berated for saying it, but I'm pro-Israel. I don't condone a lot of what they do, but when your people have been ritualistically crapped on for centuries, you can kind of understand that they're going to think offence is the best type of defence.

Does it justify everything they do? Absolutely not. Does it provide a compelling argument? To me, kinda, yeah.

e: I'm fully aware that the entire debate is far more complex and nuanced than I'm presenting it, but this is GD, not SC.
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This is it for me. I'm anti-war (some may read: Peace loving, tree-hugging hippie) which is what turns me against them due to their offensive actions, but the nails been hit on the head by Theophany. It is far more complex than just right or wrong, but there is nothing right when they're blasting their way through civilians.
 
Sho said:
We all know who the culprits are, UK and US. Controlled by the Jews. Jews got them in their pockets.
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Ah yes, the crafty, evil, beady-eyed, money-grabbing Jews with their dirty, ill-gotten Jew gold, huh?

Seeing as we're making completely ridiculous arguments, here's my counter: I bet you and your ilk would've been lining up at Auschwitz to watch them get gassed. I mean, if you got rid of enough of them they wouldn't be able to control the US and UK, right? :rolleyes:

If it weren't for the Sword of Damacles over my head, I'd lay right into you with all my keyboard-fu just for the fleeting satisfaction, sad as it is.
 
JBod said:
Why would I do that? There is no "right" side in this conflict. If anything Israel should be commended for holding off for as long as they have.

There is been death and horrible killings from both sides.

If I was born Palistinian I am sure I would hate the Israelis, if I was in Israel surrounded by enemies I'd have a damn itchy trigger finger.

As I said... there is no "right" side in this conflict. Anyone not directly involved should steer well clear.
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I would suggest that you are seriously ill-informed, perhaps you might actually learn something by turning up on Saturday?

In the meantime, have a look at the Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC) website - http://www.palestinecampaign.org/
 
Sho said:
If i was near by i would go.

We all know who the culprits are, UK and US. Controlled by the Jews. Jews got them in their pockets.

Like i said in the other thread. Israel ambition is to exterminate Palestine. Then do the exact same thing to neighboring countries as they want to create a Greater Israel. Zionist the lot of them.

Israel should be done for War crimes and genocide.
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Israel has been attacked multiple times by their Arab neighbours. If it wasn't for the fact Arab's are terrible at conventional warfare, Israel would have been genocided long ago.

Israel has also returned land it captured, so it seems bizarre you'd claim they are expansionist. The only territory they keep hold of is the land it needs to maintain its security.
 
I don't agree with the actions of Israel from a moral point of view, whether the topic is Gaza, the West Bank or their attitude towards Palestinians.

That being said, I believe Israel is the lesser evil and I tend to side with them on most of the issues in the Middle East (the exception is an attack on Iran - this would be totally unacceptable). Despite all the flaws in the politics and dominant mentality in Israel, they have a functional society governed by the rule of the law, first and foremost. After decades of conflict, the Palestinians have been unable to organise themselves and build a functional society of their own. Why are there rockets still taking off from Gaza? Why are the Palestinians still dominated by religious militants or former/actual terrorists? If they got a country to call home, what would prevent it from turning into mess such as Iraq or Syria? Israel caught the murderers who attacked that palestinian boy right away, where are the murderers of the Israeli teenagers?

I don't like what Israel is doing but I'll take their orderly militaristic nationalism over the chaotic tribalism of the Palestinians.
 
Freefaller said:
I've been to Pro-Palestinian marches before - it does no good.

Then you get Israeli MPs saying things like this:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/16/371556/israel-must-kill-all-palestinian-mothers/

:(

And then you wonder why the whole of the Middle East hates Israel - they need to look at themselves and how they behave.

I'm away this Saturday, otherwise I may have come along.
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and equally you have Saudi Arabian text books teaching primary school children that all Jews must be murdered.
 
Theophany said:
Ah yes, the crafty, evil, beady-eyed, money-grabbing Jews with their dirty, ill-gotten Jew gold, huh?

Seeing as we're making completely ridiculous arguments, here's my counter: I bet you and your ilk would've been lining up at Auschwitz to watch them get gassed. I mean, if you got rid of enough of them they wouldn't be able to control the US and UK, right? :rolleyes:

If it weren't for the Sword of Damacles over my head, I'd lay right into you with all my keyboard-fu just for the fleeting satisfaction, sad as it is.
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100% with you on this one
 
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