Do you believe in evolution ?

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Which step of this has ever been observed?

Are you trolling? Can you not grasp millions of years? not tens of years but millions. You can't observe it.

No we won't find every transitional step of the evolution timeline, there are many many branches, some fail some succeed. We can say now that your views on this are wrong. There is enough evidence out there to support evolution to the same degree as how we know that mavity exists.

If you cannot accept this then you are plain ignorant and refuse to educate yourself. It's really that simple.
 
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Which step of this has ever been observed? I have to disagree infact most of these steps make me laugh. Never, ever has one kind of creature ever given offspring to another type of creature.

Was there a specific moment in your life when you went to bed as a child and woke up as an adult ? Of course not. The change is so imperceptible that it happens without you noticing it. It happens over several years and so there is no one specific day that you transition from child to adult. Evolution happens the same way. There is no one specific moment in time when a Homo Erectus gives birth to a Homo Sapien. Every child is the same species as its parents. This is true for every animal and plant that has ever lived. However, gradually over long periods of time and due to tiny changes in the genome, an organism changes and eventually the change is big enough so that we can classify it as a different species from it's ancient ancestors. This is how evolution works. Gradual incremental changes over vast periods of time. Just like how you transition from a child to an adult.
 
Which step of this has ever been observed? I have to disagree infact most of these steps make me laugh. Never, ever has one kind of creature ever given offspring to another type of creature. Never been observed and never will. We see changes though never a leap through species to species.

You don't seem to understand what you're arguing against - no one is claiming that one creature gives birth to another creature.... Its the small changes that occur - over time......
 
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Which step of this has ever been observed? I have to disagree infact most of these steps make me laugh. Never, ever has one kind of creature ever given offspring to another type of creature. Never been observed and never will. We see changes though never a leap through species to species.

I like the fact that the human brow and jaw bone continue growing throughout the life time of a human. That with the Genesis account of much longer lifespans of earlier man, pre flood, I find interesting.

Observational science agrees with a created universe, so do I. I believe it is so obvious in all I see, although is was not always my world view; I was totally in the indoctrinated world view taught by my schooling.

I sometimes get to thinking it is so obvious there is a grand designer to life, that all you lot are just pulling my leg on here and must believe in a G-d.

Every single step there has been thoroughly evidenced and scrutinised. We have found many fossils of each and every species there, they have been dated, their biology closely studied.

Another creature doesn't just give birth to another creature, it is a gradual process. Many minuscule mutations and changes add up over thousands of generations. This has been observed many times, including entirely new traits that were simply not present in their genetic code beforehand.
 
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So your saying to ignore the early transcripts of the bible because the scholars didn't really know what was going on or how the world worked or how it was hogwash when radiometric dating of rocks came onto the scene.

If you can't see through it because of that then there is no hope.

No. I'm saying a literal reading of the Bible, with the assumption that it is inspired by God, does not offer any opposition to a belief in evolution, other than insisting on a theistic framework. To read the books of the Bible as offering an explanation of origins in opposition to evolution or to an old earth is to fundamentally misunderstand their historical context and literary genre(s).

I am suggesting precisely the opposite of ignoring them. I take them very seriously indeed.

If anyone has a spare hour and a half, feel free to watch Richard Dawkins and Rowan Williams mostly politely agree with one another
 
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OP is obviously trolling. Low post count. Massive youtube link. Tilt, pixels.

Play nice or you will receive a spanking.

One of 3 or so new accounts that that have basically just spammed bait opinion topics then not bothered even posting further. Probably alts or some kind of data harvesting.

This is a potentially an interesting topic if people can debate it half objectively.
 
The real genesis.

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While this graphic looks nice, it insinuates that evolution has sped up over time? It took 3 billion years to get frim point 1 to 2 and in relative terms the rest just seems to happen over night, despite lif3 span presumably increasing thus reducing the number of generations created per year who would then have potential to evolve.

And you jump from a simple Choan, and then suddenly you hace a flatworm with a brain? Um how did that all occur then?
 
I'm really surprised the amount of people who don't believe in evolution. Do you guys also thunk that the world is flat?

If everyone told you that the world was flat and tried to belittle anyone who disagreed for a long enough period of time, with no way to ascertain for yourself, you'd probably believe the world was flat.
 
If everyone told you that the world was flat and tried to belittle anyone who disagreed for a long enough period of time, with no way to ascertain for yourself, you'd probably believe the world was flat.

It hasn't been like that for years though, even the Catholic Church accepts evolution. It doesn't seem a good excuse to me.
 
While this graphic looks nice, it insinuates that evolution has sped up over time? It took 3 billion years to get frim point 1 to 2 and in relative terms the rest just seems to happen over night, despite lif3 span presumably increasing thus reducing the number of generations created per year who would then have potential to evolve.

And you jump from a simple Choan, and then suddenly you hace a flatworm with a brain? Um how did that all occur then?

It missed a step from Wikipedia. At 1.2 million years ago Sexual reproduction evolves, leading to faster evolution.

30 million years, quite a bit can happen.
 
I do not 'believe in evolution', I accept that it is the best explanation for the variety of animal species (including humans) alive today and acknowledge the overwhelming amount of evidence which supports the underlining hypotheses of the theory.

How life originated however is a different question (abiogenesis) and that is a lot less well understood by scientists that evolution. So if you want to use the God of the Gaps argument and say that bit was God, who then 'guided' evolution, be my guest (although you are probably wrong and there's no evidence supporting your claim).

But don't believe in creation, or 'intelligent design' because both of those have been thoroughly disproven by evolution and natural selection.

Are there some gaps in our knowledge about evolution? Yeah sure but just because we can't explain one element of a complex picture doesn't mean the rest of the evidence becomes incorrect. The best analogy for people who try and defend creation by attacking the gaps in what we know about evolution I heard was by Matt Dillahunty when he said "If you've laid 950 pieces of a 1,000 piece jigsaw and can see it's a picture of the Eiffel Tower, when you fit those last 50 pieces it doesn't suddenly become a jigsaw of the Statue Of Liberty"
 
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It missed a step from Wikipedia. At 1.2 million years ago Sexual reproduction evolves, leading to faster evolution.

30 million years, quite a bit can happen.

But the world is only 6000 years old. You can't explain that.
 
I neither believe nor disbelieve in evolution. Evolution is the mechanism that best fits both the observable evidence and the a priori assumptions of the scientific method, and is therefore a good mechanism for predicting behaviour.

If you want to believe in anything more than that, or disbelieve that the process can correctly predict reality, that's your choice, but it is nothing more than a statement of faith on your part.
 
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