Choice of motor - 360 or GTR? (Or others!?)

[TW]Fox;26730134 said:
People who have the means and the desire to own an run a 14 year old Ferrari do not need to ask a small car section on a computer overclocking forum whether they should buy one or whether they should buy a Nissan instead. Therefore this is a fantasy thread, so my advice is buy the one that comes in the nicest colour.


Actually I agree with this.
 
I did the exact same at Silverstone and felt underwhelmed too, I reckon they limit it or detune it.

I've driven a GTR elsewhere and compared to that particular 360 that I drove, I'd happily take the GTR.

Always good to hear about first hand experience, I was expecting a lot of people on here who have driven either, but not both.

Could you elaborate a little further on your comparison of both cars? Any insights would be appreciated.
 
If you do go for a GTR you should look at independent servicing and maintenance.

Places like SVM and Litchfield:

http://www.severnvalleymotorsport.co.uk/modifications/servicing-for-nissan-gt-r

http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/Nissan-GTR/Nissan-GTR-Servicing

Don't get ripped off by Nissan, it isn't like a Lamborghini where the value drops if you don't have the main dealer stamps.

Most people consider SVM and Litchfield better than Nissan.

Yep cheers, I have read this also and will definitely do this if I go down the GTR route.

All the info provided in this thread has been really useful, I think the next step is for to test drive them a little further before starting to eliminate cars.
 
The GTR can be a family car, do you have one? The Ferrari won't sit well with a four person family... Both are expensive and expensive to run, you're even asking that question I don't believe you can afford to run one. I've got 3-4 possibles for a new car next year, jeep SRT for the wife and possible GTR, DB9 or finally my TVR... Not sure yet... But I now know I can afford to run one... Even jaguar xkr keeps coming into my thinking. The thing is, I'm not thinking whether I can afford to run it... I just will. Be careful as if you really don't do your research you could end up with a big bill

However for your question, the gtr is the better car... Never rated the 360 in looks... But they are two very different cars. Ferrari because it's a Ferrari... The gtr is the faster car but it's a Nissan lol
 
I did the exact same at Silverstone and felt underwhelmed too, I reckon they limit it or detune it.

I've driven a GTR elsewhere and compared to that particular 360 that I drove, I'd happily take the GTR.

The one I drove was not limited, the paddle shift was slow to change and it just didn't excite me other than the noise and that I was driving a Ferrari
 
I'd go for a Ferrari given the choice, but if you have any concerns whatsoever about running costs, I'd imagine you can't afford it. Especially if you're stretching to buy it in the first place.
 
I guess at least it wasn't a post and run like his company car thread, where he asked us all for our thoughts, which we gave, then never posted again...

A 'novice car enthusiast' doesn't buy a Ferrari 360.
 
The GTR can be a family car, do you have one? The Ferrari won't sit well with a four person family... Both are expensive and expensive to run, you're even asking that question I don't believe you can afford to run one. I've got 3-4 possibles for a new car next year, jeep SRT for the wife and possible GTR, DB9 or finally my TVR... Not sure yet... But I now know I can afford to run one... Even jaguar xkr keeps coming into my thinking. The thing is, I'm not thinking whether I can afford to run it... I just will. Be careful as if you really don't do your research you could end up with a big bill

However for your question, the gtr is the better car... Never rated the 360 in looks... But they are two very different cars. Ferrari because it's a Ferrari... The gtr is the faster car but it's a Nissan lol

You make sense here and the more I research the more I can see the 360 is going to make a significant hole in my wallet.

This car will be 'in addition'. My wife has a run around car and I will be getting a new company car soon.
 
The 360 and 430 are considered to be an absolute joy to drive, poor mans Ferrari is something I've never heard before.

Driven the 360 and it's probably the only car I've driven that's up there with the 911 for driving pleasure and the engine note is unreal. 360's are quite reliable but running cost are high and if it breaks it can become very costly.

As great as 355 is and a classic, I'd prefer the drive of the 360, much more capable. :)

There is more to owning a car than it's performance figures. Especially when buying something as a toy. The event of the car itself is the most important thing for me at least.
 
There is the other angle that potentially the 360 will cost you nout in depreciation.
Id go 355 though.
I drove a 430. It was amazing.
I cant imagine how fast it would have felt on a road.
 
I did the exact same at Silverstone and felt underwhelmed too, I reckon they limit it or detune it.

I've driven a GTR elsewhere and compared to that particular 360 that I drove, I'd happily take the GTR.

Its not unusual for trackdays for the cars to be rev limited (some will actually advertise as not having pacing cars or limiters, etc.) 2nd one I drove he took the limiter off.
 
There is more to owning a car than it's performance figures. Especially when buying something as a toy. The event of the car itself is the most important thing for me at least.

This is very true. The best cars are the ones where you consider their performance versus their newer counterparts irrelevant. I'm thinking 205 gtis, 993 Carrera s's and i'd put the 355 in that group.
 
There is more to owning a car than it's performance figures. Especially when buying something as a toy. The event of the car itself is the most important thing for me at least.

I agree with this, to be honest Im not overly fussed over statistics and which of them is faster, for me its the experience of the drive (or rather driver experience).

But to be honest reading into this more and more, makes me think that the experience of going with the 360 could potentially turn out to be a minefield, and so (with greatest of irony) I will most likely discount the 360 at this stage and make it a choice between the GTR or a Cayman. I will consider this the first in the stepping stones towards a Ferrari in the medium term.

Folks, really appreciate your input on this.

There is the other angle that potentially the 360 will cost you nout in depreciation.
Id go 355 though.
I drove a 430. It was amazing.
I cant imagine how fast it would have felt on a road.

That's an interesting point and always wondered will 355s and 360s depreciate even more or have they now reached the trough in depreciation (and who knows perhaps to start increasing in value as it becomes more of a classic?)
 
I always see comments like this by people who have never driven one or owned one. You get it with Evo's a lot, 'the car does it all for you' etc. It's just forum talk. I'm presuming that your roll-eyes smiley means that your comment was tongue in cheek.

Depends how you mean with the GT-R, if you have the skills in the first place it will stick with you far beyond the capabilities of many other cars which does make it a bit of an analog to driving a car in a video game. If you don't have the skills in the first place it will punish you far less than many other cars but it won't do it all for you.
 
I'd say the GT-R is the safer bet all around tbh. Not sure many on here will be able to tell you what running costs a 12yr old 360 is likely to generate. If something goes wrong I can imagine it bringing a normal man to tears.

Never driven either, have been a passenger in a GT-R briefly and my god does it shift. I'm a whimp so would always take the safe bet lol.

If its anything like an old porsche expect to pay 1/2 of the value of the car again in the couple of years after buying it if it goes wrong.

If its an engine out service car you are looking at 3k or more for the yearly service.
 
[TW]Fox;26730803 said:
I guess at least it wasn't a post and run like his company car thread, where he asked us all for our thoughts, which we gave, then never posted again...

A 'novice car enthusiast' doesn't buy a Ferrari 360.

Funny you mention previous threads.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18512123

2006 VW Passat to Ferrari 360 with money in the bank to run one in a little over a year. Impressive. I'm jealous and wish I could make money like that.
 
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I've gotten ridden of the passat as I've started a new job (hence the company car).

And the money has always been there saved up for some time. Wasn't just a year I can assure you :)

But as everyone pointed out, running costs can be an issue. And after a bit of reading I think the 360 will have to be the car after this car (GTR or the Cayman possibly).
 
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Wouldnt touch a GTR

But i would def own a R34 GTR v spec II

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Can see a GTR more or less any day of the week, seen 3 within 5 minutes of each other a few weeks ago locally. I have not seet a R34 GTR on the roads in years. They are appreciating also, while the arse is falling out of your R35
 
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