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Nvidia Disables PhysX Support on Vendor Mixed GPU Setups – Driver Update 340.52 Onwards

To be fair that scenario means you're running a cut and shut system anyway. Being realistic about it.

The AMD Cliche are never happy. Throw them a bone with FXAA and they scream it's crippled on AMD cards.

Women are easier to manage :p
 
TheRealDeal said:
Yea you are right but when Nvidia's biggest fans apart from Lambchop have a problem with it i tend to take notice.
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That still (even if true) doesn't equate to 'most'. I think personally that 'most' nVidia customers won't even understand or care about the issue being discussed.

I think if you (the general 'you' not you specifically) want to look at business ethics you will find a lot worse practices present in bigger, more demanding and popular markets than the GPU one so why does this particular one cause much concern? I think it's just a battleground for fanboys to argue. I've got no problem with that but if people want to preach ethics then they should really apply the same principles to everything they buy.

shankly1985 said:
It dont matter if I pay £300 or £100 I have still paid for a feature thats on the Box, its within my own right to use it when I find fit.
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Actually it isn't your 'right' to use it. nVidia's policy is that in your theoretical scenario you can't so tough luck. And on the subject of rights it is their 'right' to do that.

That's how it is... you don't have any automatic right to it having bought the card.
 
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shankly1985 said:
O another Demo please, show me a game that uses that amount of hair detail? and TressFX isn't just for Hair, you can bet right now new Tomb raider will use it more this time around.

How long that demo been out for?
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That's not what I said. If Nvidia were locked out of TressFX, they would simply ramp up using their existing hair tech. Applying to other area's of the game, PhysX is there for that.

I have no doubt TFX can do more, I would imagine things like grass and tree/branches/leaves would look great using it.

You said in a previous post AMD are not blocking TressFX as though they are getting a favour from AMD. Nvidia have proven (yes through a fairly old tech demo) that they have enough tech available to them to not be bothered.
 
Dear NVidia, can't get PhysX working well on my 290 I was wondering if you could help me.

And other unwanted support queries and waste of resources.

It's not FAIR! :(

*Throws GPU out of pram*
 
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Sort of reminds me of how Intel used to get in a huff when AMD were releasing clones of the 486 line and then Intel moved to Pentium and AMD started making it's own design CPU's but for Intel's boards hehe. I can understand why Nvidia don't want AMD to benefit from PhysX after all they spent the R&D money on it, however one thing perplexes me:

If APU's are not an issue, then the complaint is that people can't use, say a R290X plus a 750Ti to handle PhysX. But why would any moron want to do that when a GTX780Ti would do just as well, it's not like any titles support Mantle AND PhysX so there's nothing to be gained by running the more awkward setup.
 
ubersonic said:
Sort of reminds me of how Intel used to get in a huff when AMD were releasing clones of the 486 line and then Intel moved to Pentium and AMD started making it's own design CPU's but for Intel's boards hehe. I can understand why Nvidia don't want AMD to benefit from PhysX after all they spent the R&D money on it, however one thing perplexes me:

If APU's are not an issue, then the complaint is that people can't use, say a R290X plus a 750Ti to handle PhysX. But why would any moron want to do that when a GTX780Ti would do just as well, it's not like any titles support Mantle AND PhysX so there's nothing to be gained by running the more awkward setup.
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I like these points your making. I would say, most people with an AMD card (fanboys) wont move over to Nvidia only. Can you imagine Matt going to Nvidia ? :D
 
MjFrosty said:
Dear NVidia, can't get PhysX working well on my 290 I was wondering if you could help me.

And other unwanted support queries and waste of resources.

It's not FAIR! :(

*Throws GPU out of pram*
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But we not trying to get it working on a 290?? lol if I was to pick up a 670 for example I would want it working on that.
 
So if I read this correctly, now that it has been proven that it doesn't Get effected by APU's, this is no different than the way it has been for the last couple of years.

So why are we still argueing about it?
 
bru said:
So why are we still argueing about it?
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It progressed.

That it's a perfectly OK practice to disable a feature you paid for in good faith despite trying to run a title entirely through an Nvidia gpu, just because you have the audacity of wanting to run every usp on the one rig-the whole reason behind the PC 'open' eco system-build it the way you want-not TWIMTBEnforced!
 
shankly1985 said:
But we not trying to get it working on a 290?? lol if I was to pick up a 670 for example I would want it working on that.
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It would. Just as long as you didn't have an AMD GPU. See this is why it's difficult to have a rational argument about these things.

Who in their right mind has a high end GPU and runs a 670 as a dedicated PhysX card. What an actual massive waste of resources. It's just obscure.

But what if I had a 290 and my grandma on her death bed wanted to see Borderlands with PhysX just one last time? I would be denying her last wishes.

You're one footstep away from insanity such as this :p
 
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Buy a motherboard with pci kill switches (becomming very common on mid to high end), kill amd lane, problem solved without removing anything :)

Tbh I'm in the camp of thinking this was a little drastic by nvidia, but it is their technology to do what they wish with, personally I don't bother with physx, the last game I tried it on (black flag) it just crippled performance for very little visual gain.

Nvidia can wake me up when we see some of the stuff used in tech demos rather then a bit of smoke and floating paper dotted about. Hopefully the new witcher makes good use of it.
 
tommybhoy said:
It progressed.
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ER you sure about that. for the last couple of years it has not been possible to use GPU PhysX with and AMD card present, so it hasn't changed at all, or is it just national moan at Nvidia decade.

Maybe we need another thread about how crap the stock AMD coolers are this time round, as that hasn't been moaned about for a few months.


Yes Nvidia are at fault blocking PhsyX, but no more so than they were a few years ago when this first happened, is it a crappy way to do business? Yes it is, but it isn't any different than it was back then, this article and the entire thread really has been a colossal waste of time.
 
pgi947 said:
Buy a motherboard with pci kill switches (becomming very common on mid to high end), kill amd lane, problem solved without removing anything :)

Tbh I'm in the camp of thinking this was a little drastic by nvidia, but it is their technology to do what they wish with, personally I don't bother with physx, the last game I tried it on (black flag) it just crippled performance for very little visual gain.

Nvidia can wake me up when we see some of the stuff used in tech demos rather then a bit of smoke and floating paper dotted about. Hopefully the new witcher makes good use of it.
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This, I personally see it as a bit of overkill from Nvidia. But it is theirs to do with as they like at the end of the day and I would certainly not loose sleep over it.
 
pgi947 said:
Buy a motherboard with pci kill switches (becomming very common on mid to high end), kill amd lane, problem solved without removing anything :)

Tbh I'm in the camp of thinking this was a little drastic by nvidia, but it is their technology to do what they wish with, personally I don't bother with physx, the last game I tried it on (black flag) it just crippled performance for very little visual gain.

Nvidia can wake me up when we see some of the stuff used in tech demos rather then a bit of smoke and floating paper dotted about. Hopefully the new witcher makes good use of it.
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Well this is the other side of it. PhysX needs a serious kick up the backside. As it stands I wouldn't be the least bit concerned about not having it with my AMD setup. Hopefully next year with the addition of a handful of full next gen games this will change.
 
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