Van driver talking on the phone
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Youtube has compressed the video so the reg is just a mess of pixels.
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Typical van driver, can't even use the correct 'too'.
E: OP you need to angle your camera down a bit more so less sky is in the picture as that's forcing the everything else to be dark which doesn't help with identifying the reg.
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Thank you, will do !
Thank you, will do !
Typical van driver, can't even use the correct 'too'.
E: OP you need to angle your camera down a bit more so less sky is in the picture as that's forcing the everything else to be dark which doesn't help with identifying the reg.
Top tip: Check your own posts before having a pop at someone else's grammar
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Some of us have no choice but to use vans for work. Suggest you think of a different lifestyle so that vans and other vehicles such as heavy goods are no longer needed.
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Hey, don't knock the Doc!
Really?
Indeed!
A slightly different analysis perhaps..
!(Ignoring the phone issue, for which there is no excuse, but even without the phone issue the OP is IMO on shaky ground!)
OP enters roundabout in left hand lane intending to make for the third exit!. (Admittedly the lane markings suggest that this is "acceptable" but it is certainly unusual, and even if was a roundabout I was familiar with I would NOT choose to use that lane for a third exit entry! I would also not expect other road users entering the roundabout from other entry points to expect me to do so, so if I did use that lane (Despite the lane markings!) I would only do so using a degree of caution in the expectation that others might find my manoeuvres confusing!)
Initially OP is blocked by vehicle in "L2" on roundabout who is actually exiting at next exit. (Who is also "Masking" OP from approaching van drivers sight line)
Once above exiting vehicle is out of OP's way (15 seconds into the video) OP accelerates sharply!
This is also about the point at which I would expect the Van driver to make his "Go/No-Go" decision.! (At that point it would not appear to him that there is any approaching traffic for him to concern himself with)
Look closely at the clip at 15 seconds. the Van is about two vehicle lengths from the give way line (No more than three) the OP is some considerable distance back from that in a lane that has just been crossed by another driver taking the previous exit (One can see this on the video, but of course without speed data we cannot actually see just how much speed has been gained over a pretty short time. 10-15 MPH is not however an unreasonable estimate!)
Had OP continued around roundabout in a steady and predictable manner there would have been no problem. It is the sudden and unexpected acceleration by the OP that made this an issue rather than the use of a phone!
I bloody hate people who regard roundabouts as some sort of racetrack whereby they consider it acceptable to use their sense of "Priority/Right of Way" entitlement to wilfully "Close the door" on joining traffic!
Really?
Indeed!
A slightly different analysis perhaps..
(Ignoring the phone issue, for which there is no excuse, but even without the phone issue the OP is IMO on shaky ground!)
OP enters roundabout in left hand lane intending to make for the third exit!. (Admittedly the lane markings suggest that this is "acceptable" but it is certainly unusual, and even if was a roundabout I was familiar with I would NOT choose to use that lane for a third exit entry! I would also not expect other road users entering the roundabout from other entry points to expect me to do so, so if I did use that lane (Despite the lane markings!) I would only do so using a degree of caution in the expectation that others might find my manoeuvres confusing!)
Initially OP is blocked by vehicle in "L2" on roundabout who is actually exiting at next exit. (Who is also "Masking" OP from approaching van drivers sight line)
Once above exiting vehicle is out of OP's way (15 seconds into the video) OP accelerates sharply!
This is also about the point at which I would expect the Van driver to make his "Go/No-Go" decision.! (At that point it would not appear to him that there is any approaching traffic for him to concern himself with)
Look closely at the clip at 15 seconds. the Van is about two vehicle lengths from the give way line (No more than three) the OP is some considerable distance back from that in a lane that has just been crossed by another driver taking the previous exit (One can see this on the video, but of course without speed data we cannot actually see just how much speed has been gained over a pretty short time. 10-15 MPH is not however an unreasonable estimate!)
Had OP continued around roundabout in a steady and predictable manner there would have been no problem. It is the sudden and unexpected acceleration by the OP that made this an issue rather than the use of a phone!
I bloody hate people who regard roundabouts as some sort of racetrack whereby they consider it acceptable to use their sense of "Priority/Right of Way" entitlement to wilfully "Close the door" on joining traffic!
As you can see i start on the exterior lane entering the roundabout ( not correct, but the signs on the road are saying ok to that). I saw the white van driver who was on the phone and from the exterior lane i move to the interior lane, then the driver didn't go one the exterior lane he cross direct on the interior lane( then i brake ).