Wales approves cannabis-based medicine

[deltalinx]

That's irrelevant, still many studies there for you to look at and read, validating my point that there is undeniable evidence that cannabis could indeed help.

Not only the fact the world is now opening up to it to become used in the medical field, I think that shows everything about it's potential.

Did you watch the Rick Simpson documentary I posted?

 

[Burnsy2023]

That's irrelevant, still many studies there for you to look at and read, validating my point that there is undeniable evidence that cannabis could indeed help.

Cite the studies then if the evidence is undeniable.

 

[deltalinx]

Again, did you watch the Rick Simpson documentary?

It's all there for you on the interwebs.

The fact it's being recognized and used in the medical field says all about it's potentials.

 

[Mynight]

There are a few studies yes nothing concrete.

I would also like to read studies from sites other than;

Cureyourowncancer.org
Cannabisculture.com

For god sake the top link is a conspiracy theory website.

Other than the ncbi link which doesn't mention a cure rather than a decrease in progression and effects of chemo there's no credible links in the first 2 pages. I could dig further and prove myself wrong but this is the Internet .

 

[Burnsy2023]

Again, did you watch the Rick Simpson documentary?

It's all there for you on the interwebs.

Documentaries aren't studies. Cite the studies, I'll happily evaluate the evidence and if there is something to it I'll happily argue in favour of the evidence.

 

[Burnsy2023]

The fact it's being recognized and used in the medical field says all about it's potentials.

One doctor with an opinion does not mean it's in any way recognised by the medical community.

 

[deltalinx]

ONE doctor? what about all the states in america? Uruguay?

You are obviously against it's use no point arguing with you.

 

[Burnsy2023]

ONE doctor? what about all the states in america? Uruguay?

You are obviously against it's use no point arguing with you.

Are we still talking about your assertion that cannabis related drugs help cure cancer? I don't doubt there are other conditions that it is scientifically verifiable to say it is effective, which I fully support, but I don't see any evidence about any efficacy to treat cancer.

Like I said, I'm not against the medicinal use of any substance as long as the evidence supports it's use and I, like the medical community, have a high burden of proof.

 

[Tefal]

ONE doctor? what about all the states in america? Uruguay?.

thats for pain relief and its anti nausea and appetite properties though. All excellent thing to have when you're going through chemo.

 

[deltalinx]

Yes curing Cancer is a big bold statement to make, obviously it's very early days for studies for that, I have no doubt that it does infact help with cancer sufferers to some extent.
My opinion towards it's health benefits are more pointed towards people with other medical conditions like MS, such as I was saying earlier with my partners uncle who had it, me with Crohn's disease, it's helped me with the pain management and settles my stomach.
Neurogenesis, anxiety and depression alleviation, so many benefits it can help with.

 

[Trusty]

Having said that, I've seen negative effects from smoking cannabis, primarily on my memory. I'm not going to lie; my memory has certainly suffered. I've had very very mild paranoia, but I've been smoking it for years. Nor was I incredibly young when I started smoking it, so I've hopefully missed potential effects on the developing brain.

I think memory is certainly one of the biggest issues regarding smoking, it obviously depends at which age you start smoking, i saw a good experiment with rats about weed, rats who were given weed whilst adolescent had a slightly worse performance than the control group. Adult rats given weed actually made no difference to memory. I think if you're baked out your skull and you read a book you have no interest in, your'e aren't going to remember jack. If you enjoy the subject though and study every word from a million different angles then you'll retain that information.

Out of interest, you mentioned paranoia, do you think that was the plant creating it or it was manifesting from your own inner self anxiousness? Was the problem there before hand for example, but were suppressing it when sober. I think Marijuana is an extremely good truth serum, you can't act on the stuff. Very humbling that plant is imo.

I lost a friend who drove stoned straight into a tree.

If it was legalised, you would surely have a law stating that it's illegal to toke and drive, much like drink driving. If your in control of half tonne vehicle, everyone should have a clear mind at the end of the day. Cars are dangerous things, no one should have any mind altering substances near them when driving.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

Out of interest, you mentioned paranoia, do you think that was the plant creating it or it was manifesting from your own inner self anxiousness? Was the problem there before hand for example, but were suppressing it when sober. I think Marijuana is an extremely good truth serum, you can't act on the stuff. Very humbling that plant is imo.

It's only paranoia about getting caught, I don't think anything else is going on. So, as someone else said earlier in the thread, the paranoia is only brought about by the illegality of the substance. Tbh, the feeling has been very rare.

 

[Burnsy2023]

If it was legalised, you would surely have a law stating that it's illegal to toke and drive, much like drink driving.

Err, it already is illegal to drive impaired through drink or drugs, the problem is proving it.

 

[Mynight]

If it was legalised, you would surely have a law stating that it's illegal to toke and drive, much like drink driving.

It already is illegal but hard to prove afaik.

The point was the drug can be just as dangerous as any of our current legal ones.

Edit:beaten to it

 

[Andy90]

If it was legalised, you would surely have a law stating that it's illegal to toke and drive, much like drink driving. If your in control of half tonne vehicle, everyone should have a clear mind at the end of the day. Cars are dangerous things, no one should have any mind altering substances near them when driving.

There is already a law that covers this.

Section 4 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 make is an offence to Drive or be in charge of a vehicle whilst under the influence of drink or drugs.

It doesn't matter if the drugs are legal, prescription or illegal.

 

[Trusty]

Err, it already is illegal to drive impaired through drink or drugs, the problem is proving it.

Yea but you're allowed a pint before driving aren't you. If weed was legalised, some might say, half a j and driving is ok. Where as i don't drink at all before driving you know. Varies from person to person on what their view is..

 

[PapaLazaru]

As an ex-smoker of 16+ years (daily), I can tell you one thing. Cannabis does not 'open you mind', in fact it does the opposite. You may well sit there at home or with friends stoned and talk about stuff that you may not have otherwise and believe that you are wise, but you are not. One day that will dawn on you.

I guarantee one thing for any daily smoker, that is that one day it will not do what it once did anymore and you will slowly learn that it has prevented you from achieving things that you may have done if you did not smoke. I still have a few friends that still smoke daily after 15 years and not one of them has achieved their potential.

I have no doubt at all that there are medical benefits, but as a recreational drug I class it as the worst one of the lot, and I have been there and done it with the lot of them. Whilst it may not be the most addictive, or the most dangerous, the fact that it is classed as one of the lesser illegal drugs to me is rubbish. The simple fact that it is deemed less dangerous makes people think it is safer to do on a regular basis and that is what makes it so harmful. Only alcohol, or those with addictive personalities that move onto harder drugs daily are worse, and cannabis is the start.

When you see good friends get sectioned for this so called 'safe drug' you should know that it is not safe at all.

I don't drink and have never used any illegal drugs. Reason I have never used drugs is simple, I am not a smack head. And I don't care if people say weed is different than heroin etc etc, if you use any of them you are scum of the earth.

You need educating.

 

[zegna]

Yes curing Cancer is a big bold statement to make, obviously it's very early days for studies for that

LOL you're such a stoner, I can tell. Leave the science to those that know about it bro.

It possibility will help symptoms of more advanced cancer.. but cure or even prevent..

 

[Trusty]

As an ex-smoker of 16+ years (daily), I can tell you one thing. Cannabis does not 'open you mind', in fact it does the opposite. You may well sit there at home or with friends stoned and talk about stuff that you may not have otherwise and believe that you are wise, but you are not. One day that will dawn on you.

I guarantee one thing for any daily smoker, that is that one day it will not do what it once did anymore and you will slowly learn that it has prevented you from achieving things that you may have done if you did not smoke. I still have a few friends that still smoke daily after 15 years and not one of them has achieved their potential.

I have no doubt at all that there are medical benefits, but as a recreational drug I class it as the worst one of the lot, and I have been there and done it with the lot of them. Whilst it may not be the most addictive, or the most dangerous, the fact that it is classed as one of the lesser illegal drugs to me is rubbish. The simple fact that it is deemed less dangerous makes people think it is safer to do on a regular basis and that is what makes it so harmful. Only alcohol, or those with addictive personalities that move onto harder drugs daily are worse, and cannabis is the start.

When you see good friends get sectioned for this so called 'safe drug' you should know that it is not safe at all.

Why were they sectioned? what for?

 

[deltalinx]

LOL you're such a stoner, I can tell. Leave the science to those that know about it bro.

It possibility will help symptoms of more advanced cancer.. but cure or even prevent..

I did say it helps towards the symptoms though didn't I

Yes I agree cure and prevent is a big statement to make, but I think that's the part of me that wants it to be true, for humanity and to get rid of the horrible disease.