Ferguson and Michael Brown
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Because a group set up purely to attack the police couldn't possibly have the slightest hint of bias in it
Really?
The group posts public videos of police interactions as well as relevant information regarding police procedures. If that is your definition of attacking the police, you need to think again. Most people posting here have a passing interest in this issue, mostly based on Ferguson. If you had been studying police culture for years as i have, you would recognize there is a growing need for awareness and you would also recognize that the police in America have become militarized beyond recognition.
I will leave this here as an illustration of my point..hard to watch but is a perfect example of everything that has went wrong with American "law enforcement"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwytoxMuk4U
I'm completely neutral, but I can plainly see that the homeless gentleman in that video is brandishing a knife.
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Yup he was camping and minding his own business when the police came to move him off the hill. He was at great distance from the police. Was not acting in a threatening manner. Was attempting to move away from the police and was gathering his belongings. Shot by police, tear gassed and kicked by police and had the dog set apon him. Proportional force? C'mon.
And how is an unarmed person a threat, especially after he has been shot, let a
One shot twice, or 3 times, or 4 times? Was the fifth bullet really need to control the threat? The sixth?
It is outrageous, the cop needs to be impress owned for manslaughter
Unarmed people can be a threat, for example if they are hitting your head on the ground or trying to get your gun, as for being shot six times you don't fire off one and then wait and see if that stops him, you fire several times in quick succession. Those 6 shots were probably fired within a couple of seconds.
And even though you probably know this in America even when the police are in the wrong they rarely get charged which is the real problem, not how many times someone was shot. Now this case could be different because it's not just the local police looking at the evidence now.
And even though you probably know this in America even when the police are in the wrong they rarely get charged which is the real problem, not how many times someone was shot. Now this case could be different because it's not just the local police looking at the evidence now.
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Do they post videos of all police interactions, or only those where something went wrong?
If the former then fair enough, but if they're only picking out the ones which show "police brutality" whilst ignoring the thousands of normal, everyday arrests etc. where no-one got shot, everyone did their job properly, etc. then you can't deny they're painting a skewed picture of the situation.
By all means, officers abusing their powers need to be controlled, disciplined, and where they have been proven to have broken the law, should be punished accordingly. That doesn't however mean that every single police officer is like that, and purely out there to assault and kill people because they're on some kind of power trip.
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If you really want to know why police offices in the states used guns, read this,
http://www.odmp.org/officer/20866-deputy-sheriff-kurt-brian-wyman
he was married to my cousin, who gave birth to there second child hours after he was killed, if he had used his gun and not a taser he would be here today.
http://www.odmp.org/officer/20866-deputy-sheriff-kurt-brian-wyman
he was married to my cousin, who gave birth to there second child hours after he was killed, if he had used his gun and not a taser he would be here today.
Sad though that undoubtedly is, perhaps if access to firearms was ever so slightly restricted, maybe he'd still be alive today?
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They show good and bad however you cannot ignore the sheer volume of evidence that illustrates brutality, unconstitutional stop and searches, over use of force, threatening behavior etc. It is the culture and it has evolved to insane levles after 9/11.
Here is a gem from 5 weeks ago.. Someone please try to defend this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnpT6GLk6a0
If the unarmed person is on PCP or some other drug then even emptying the magazine on them might not stop them.
Michael Brown was also a big guy supposedly (6'4" and 300lbs).
If I had a guy of that size facing me and I perceived them to be a threat I would also empty the mag into him. If he hadn't been stopped and searched there's no way of knowing that he was completely unarmed or what substances he might be on either (it seems unlikely that he had been searched given that he was running around and resisting/fighting against the police officer).
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The right to own guns is part of what being an American is, they wont give up those rights. the problem comes when people go on about the police, when it is the police that are out of the streets dealing with scum everyday. I would prefer if the police didn't have to be worried about being called a racist/murder when they feel the need to use their gun.
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To suggest they remove dead white people quicker is hilariously stupid. Once someone is dead there is zero priority to get them medical attention and leaving the crime scene intact for investigation is the priority, a body won't be moved till after the scene is looked over, pictures taken, etc.
Secondly you have NO IDEA how the "kid" was acting currently so to suggest he would be alive if he was white is again simply incorrect and certainly not fact as you claim. One of the claims is the 18 year old 6'4 300lbs man was running at the cop, white or black, run at a cop you're almost certainly getting shot.
You're taking facts that you want to be true then making claims of fact based on these. When the facts are established it might turn out that he was shot unlawfully, it could turn out the officer was acting as any other officer would and that the actions of the "kid" were entirely to blame. You're also calling him a kid, when he was 18, because it further reinforces some idea that it's wrong, like kids aren't capable of being a danger.
400.... in a country of over 250million people with 14k people murdered 400 people killed by the police is a pretty low number in comparison to the amount and severity of crime occurring in the USA.
they aren't all justified but 400 deaths(I presume you meant to say have died from gun shots fired from the police), when there are something like 900k various types of police officers in the USA, and when 100 cops have been killed in 2013... 400 is very small.
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You would kill someone just in case they had taken drugs or may be armed?
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if they were attacking me and I thought it was the right course of action I would have killed him.
If someone walked on to my land in Florida(if I was there) I would shot him. And I would be with in my rights to do so.
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Nice, hopefully you don't move back here.
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This says it better than i could
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDU8Bk9jc-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnpT6GLk6a0 Could you see this happening to a white grandma ?
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Well you are an idiot.