GD judgement: is this moral/immoral, legal/illegal

Freefaller · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:47

It is both immoral and technically theft in my opinion.

Ayahuasca · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:48

Thing is if your friend got away with it twice I wonder how many others did over the course of the festival from that seller.

Dunners · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:49

The way I see it, sometimes the world shafts you, and other times gives you a freebie..

Wizzfizz · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:50

Good on your mate..

Ayahuasca · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:51

Wizzfizz said:
Good on your mate

You must be a scouser.

Sliver · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:52

Dunners said:
The way I see it, sometimes the world shafts you, and other times gives you a freebie..

This is true. Sage words my friend. Just keep your lube on you at all times and you should be safe.

Cosimo · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:54

He's a bad man and will burn in hell.....

Wizzfizz · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:54

Ayahuasca said:
You must be a scouser.

I could be anything you want me to be sweetheart

Blue160 · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:55

A few times I've realised I've left somewhere without paying for something. I've always gone back and paid. Eating then leaving without paying is morally wrong.

spoffle · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:57

Moral/Immoral is subjective. Legal or illegal isn't. They also aren't synonyms of each other.

cheesyboy · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:58

Blue160 said:
A few times I've realised I've left somewhere without paying for something. I've always gone back and paid. Eating then leaving without paying is morally wrong.

These were takeaways, where the transaction finishes when they hand over the food and move on to the next customer.

In a restaurant, there's a level of trust from the retailer that you stay and pay after your meal: that definitely seems a bigger moral obligation to me.

Akagi · 26 Aug 2014 at 16:59

Blue160 said:
A few times I've realised I've left somewhere without paying for something. I've always gone back and paid. Eating then leaving without paying is morally wrong.

I assume that it was a fast food place and he was handed his food and then left with it. Rather than a sit down place where he eats and doesnt pay the bill.

Surveyor · 26 Aug 2014 at 17:10

As your friend knew that he should have paid and didn't these could be offences of "making off without payment", s.3 Theft Act 1978.

This covers offences such as leaving a restaurant or hotel without paying, not paying a taxi fare and filling up with petrol and driving off.

Tom0 · 26 Aug 2014 at 17:18

I wonder if his food was as sour as your grapes.

Blue160 · 26 Aug 2014 at 17:19

Acme said:
I assume that it was a fast food place and he was handed his food and then left with it. Rather than a sit down place where he eats and doesnt pay the bill.

I understand that. I'd still have gone back

tom_e · 26 Aug 2014 at 17:37

It's not as immoral/illegal as the people who go to the bars order a big round wait till it's all been placed on the bar and then say oh by the way can I have a jd and coke or something then as soon as the servers back is turned they leg it with the drinks.
I have been known to hop the bar and chase them down if I'm having a really bad day!

areksnumbr1sxylady · 26 Aug 2014 at 17:40

I think you need to report him to the police.

For daylight robbery.

R.O.S.S.I · 26 Aug 2014 at 17:41

Happened to me at Glasto however I fessed up and told the lady she hadn't charged me!

Could have saved myself a fiver on a smoothie though and i'm not sure why I did fess up to be honest as normally i'd have just gone on my merry way happy that i'd saved some dosh!

areksnumbr1sxylady · 26 Aug 2014 at 17:47

R.O.S.S.I said:
normally i'd have just gone on my merry way happy that i'd saved some dosh!

Bloody Immigrants, not only they steal our jobs but they actually steal stuff too!! :mad:

Judgeneo · 26 Aug 2014 at 18:34

As this is a festival, it depends on how drunk I am.
Sober I'd try to pay after they forget. If I'm very drunk I'll probably try to get another for free.