If its no better how come all my scores in 3d benches have gone up?? Its better and the scores prove it.
IVY E spanked your SB-E also. I have 5ghz air chips.
I have a 5ghz air chip.
Look 8 Pack, I understand you're excited about X99. That's completely fine, it's something new for you to play with. However, I tend to live in the real world and run my rigs accordingly.
The fact is that since Sandybridge Intel have pretty much been dancing around the same sort of products with the same sort of figures. X79 was a true step forward, as it introduced CPUs we did not have before (6 core overclockable CPUs for example).
IVBE fitted the same socket and was more of the same. 5-10% if you were lucky.
However, back in reality you see those chips you BIN and throw to one side? they end up with us ! You say Haswell was great? most of the people I speak to thought it was awful. I've seen chips sent back because they were unable to do 4.1ghz stable with 90c load temps.
Intel have not done anything remarkable since Sandybridge. If you're into getting excited about a new socket and minimal performance increases? fine. That's what you do, that's what you like.
However, even you must be able to see that Ivybridge and Haswell were no reason to upgrade for any one?
Sure, you get the excited reviewers out there saying "Well Ivy is faster than Sandy" and "Haswell is faster than Ivy !" but back in reality they are minimal gains and really nothing to get excited about unless you are chasing world records.
So, a new chip with a new name a model number. Great for you ! you get to dig through countless samples looking for the good ones. Us? we get the crap. We don't have LN2 and we wouldn't use it even if we could.
For us Intel have released absolutely nothing new. Haswell E is just the same old technology only a little bit more of it.
Now I understand that OCUK is a business. And I understand capitalism perfectly well also. I see why you must remain positive at all times but so far with Haswell E I've seen absolutely nothing to surprise me whatsoever.
There is a massive distinctive lack of reviews for the 5820k and 5930k. All of these reviews are absolutely useless unless you are looking at the 5960x. Even the reviews we do have just quietly tuck in the hex cores then rave on about the 8 core, which just so happens to be bloody useless to a regular desktop user.
For X99 to have been great the CPUs that plug into it need to be great also. And, from what I have seen they aren't anything we don't have already. There is something very odd going on, because there is no information out there about the hex cores that people could actually afford and far more being put on the 8 core which is a pipe dream to most.
That's not how you do a launch, it just smacks of pure snobbery and is hurting Intel because those of us out there like me are not getting the information we need.
However, with the information I do have (and that's not my fault, blame bloody Intel !) the 5820k and 5930k both look a bit pants. Had Intel sent out more samples of the lower CPUs then great, maybe we would have more information than we do, but it's all been a bit of a polish for Intel to show off so far.
