Creating a lunar base

[TheBDog]

Hey GD, it's been a while.

Question for you, would it at all be feasible (given our current technology) to go back to the moon and create some sort of lunar base?

I guess my question is more about the feasibility of creating structures on the moon given our current methods.

Would scaffolding be enough? Would we need some kind of oxygen perpetuating system? How hard would it be to use modern tools in a big ol' space suit? Would our buildings actually stay up on the moon and be a successful form of shelter? If a spaceman farts on the moon, does it make a sound? These are troubling questions indeed.

 

[Glaucus]

Yes.
NASA have commissioned a big 3d printer to showcase building shelters in moon/mars.
Such massive 3d printers have been used on earth to create buildings, with more planned.

 

[Metalface Mark]

It was mooted during George Bush's presidency (one of the last things he did if I remember correctly), Obama came along and scrapped it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_outpost_(NASA)

 

[Firestar_3x]

Such massive 3d printers have been used on earth to create buildings, with more planned.

With more planned what?

 

[Atlas23]

Mooning is the art of displaying one's bare buttocks by removing clothing, e.g., by lowering the backside of one's trousers and underpants, usually bending over. Mooning is used mostly in the English-speaking world to express protest, scorn, disrespect, or provocation but can also simply be done for shock value or fun. Some jurisdictions regard mooning to be indecent exposure, sometimes depending on the context. Mooning often is taken further, where it turns from gesture to assault. This is known as a "pressed ham", where the said person forces his buttocks onto the face of the victim or a window.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mooning

 

[TheBDog]

It was mooted during George Bush's presidency (one of the last things he did if I remember correctly), Obama came along and scrapped it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_outpost_(NASA)

D: No way! C'mon, how cool would it be?!

 

[Glaucus]

With more planned what?

With more planned what?
more buildings built this way, including an entire estate.

 

[TheBDog]

With more planned what?
more buildings built this way, including an entire estate.

Now this is an interesting idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building_printing

The Chinese company WinSun has built houses using large 3D printers sparing a mixture of quick drying cement and recycled raw materials. Ten demo houses were built in 24 hours, each costing US$5000. This technology can be used to build cost effective, environmentally sustainable affordable housing. Large buildings, including skyscrapers, are expected to be built using this technology.

 

[Glaucus]

And it's not just them, Dutch, American and other companies.

NASA and ESA also have their own branches of development.

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Technology/Building_a_lunar_base_with_3D_printing

NASA have also been testing water/oxygen production on earth and the technology will be on the next mars rover
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-02/02/terraforming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_2020#Scientific_instruments

The Mars Oxygen ISRU Experiment (MOXIE), an exploration technology investigation that will produce oxygen (O2) from Martian atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2).[29] This could support human life or make rocket fuel for return missions

 

[arknor]

could have had one on mars by now

 

[Hagar]

The major problem is achieving escape velocity from the earth for all the material required. Solve that and job done.

Did have a fantasy about the scaffolding though,

'C'mon Mick only another 50,000 lifts to go'.

 

[Guerrilla]

One thing I've wondered with regard to a moon base is how would it deal with the massive temperature variation on the moon? Is there a part of the moon that would have to be used as it has a more stable temperature range or would be have to create some way of regulating the temperatures and if so wouldn't that require a lot of energy?

 

[Hagar]

One thing I've wondered with regard to a moon base is how would it deal with the massive temperature variation on the moon? Is there a part of the moon that would have to be used as it has a more stable temperature range or would be have to create some way of regulating the temperatures and if so wouldn't that require a lot of energy?

Underground?

 

[TheBDog]

And it's not just them, Dutch, American and other companies.

NASA and ESA also have their own branches of development.

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Technology/Building_a_lunar_base_with_3D_printing

NASA have also been testing water/oxygen production on earth and the technology will be on the next mars rover
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-02/02/terraforming
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_2020#Scientific_instruments

Wow, so we're already sort of on the way. That's cool. Need to get this sorted before the nazis do(Iron Sky/ Wolfenstein )

'C'mon Mick only another 50,000 lifts to go'.

One thing I've wondered with regard to a moon base is how would it deal with the massive temperature variation on the moon? Is there a part of the moon that would have to be used as it has a more stable temperature range or would be have to create some way of regulating the temperatures and if so wouldn't that require a lot of energy?

It's likely that people would probably be mostly contained within structures and rarely venture out onto the surface without spacesuits/ vehicles. At least, that's how I imagine it.

 

[doodah]

Mr Burns can provide a big sun shield for the moon base.

 

[Guerrilla]

Underground?

I figured it'd be really cold underground there? Not sure there's any of that lovely warm stuff in the middle of the moon.

It's likely that people would probably be mostly contained within structures and rarely venture out onto the surface without spacesuits/ vehicles. At least, that's how I imagine it.

Yea I reckon so, but even then how'd they heat/cool the structures enough, the variations are an awful lot to deal with?

 

[TheBDog]

I figured it'd be really cold underground there? Not sure there's any of that lovely warm stuff in the middle of the moon.



Yea I reckon so, but even then how'd they heat/cool the structures enough, the variations are an awful lot to deal with?

Fair question, I don't really know how big the variations are to be honest. It doesn't take much of a change in temperature to adversely affect the human body.

Lots and lots of AC

 

[doofer]

The major problem is achieving escape velocity from the earth for all the material required. Solve that and job done.

It's simple, water boils spontaneously at low pressures in the higher atmosphere, so we build steam powered rockets! they would need no engines at all as we could use a gigantic elastic band to fire them up high enough for the steam to kick in, it is almost completely 'Green' and the excess steam would cool the Earth and help prevent climate change. All this high technology stuff is all just a huge corporate scam to make money.

 

[Hagar]

I figured it'd be really cold underground there? Not sure there's any of that lovely warm stuff in the middle of the moon.



Yea I reckon so, but even then how'd they heat/cool the structures enough, the variations are an awful lot to deal with?

Solar panels would work very well and could be massive with little or no gravity.

Small nuclear reactors.

 

[Wazz-1]

Looks like someones already there