I'm surprised it's not been closed. So much misinformation.
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I'd like to think that most people are intelligent enough to understand that eating meat is perfectly healthy. As well as being vegetarian is perfectly healthy as long as you take the precautions to get all your nutrients and proteins in from as little processed/refined sources as possible.
It is perfectly possible to be healthy and vegetarian, but it takes a lot more work to eat good quality foods to get your nutrition in without eating poor quality refined/processed foods - but it requires effort and planning.
Well balanced meat and vegetable diets are optimum really.
But animal fats found in meat are liek so badddd and clog your arteries! They don't call them saturated fat saturated for nothing, it's because it's literally SATURATED with fat. Eurgh! That's why I always cut the fat off of my bacon and steak, otherwise I can actually feel it clogging my heart. I try to eat no red meat anyway because it's bad for you (I read it somewhere).
INB4 "I have an enema to flish out the rotting flesh in my colon" posts - genuinely surprised this hasn't been said yet.
This, it's not easy getting everything you need from fruit and veg, especially when you don't like veg.
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I fancy banning a Don
Just serve him some bread smeared with lots of lard and topped with thick pancetta.
The percentage of sick badgers was about about 1.4% in last year's full. Absolutely negligable. What I don't know is whether that percentage was a visual analysis or results form blood tests.
Either way the badger culls should not be hapenning. Badgers are a native species and have just as much right to roam this earth as we do. Then again it seems this government is insistent on killing anything that can't be used for profit so...
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Ah yes, the old "I'm a farmer, I know my land best" speech. Unfortunately it's rubbish, as seem time and time again with everything from deforestation*, to insecticides to bad plowing techniques. Not only are a significant number of methods affecting long term productivity of your own land they are affecting everyone else around you. For example last year's floods on the levels can be attributed to deforestation in the uplands and soil runoff from bad farming techniques.
The argjmnt can be used in all industries, why should we regulate oil and gas? They know best. Why should we regulate the car, manufacturing and chemicals industries? They also know more than a few scientists at Whitehall...
There are many farmers that farm in a sustainable, countryside friendly way (as much as you can when you've torn down the trees and planted a monocrop, or allowed non native species to graze the land to short grass...), unfortunately there are plenty more that only think of profit and don't care about the effect they are having on the surrounding landscape and natural world.
Visual which is incredibly hard diagnose in badgers. Why don't you read the paper I posted?
Vaccination and culling need to happen hand in hand to tackle btb effectively.
We also cull deer with less objection from AR nutters! Many vocal celebs against the badger cull allow culling of other animals on there land... Take Brian May as an example.
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Personally if I had a choice between almost wiping out a (protected!) species or just paying a little more for my meat (to recompence farmers that have lost animals to those wild animals) I'd choose the latter ever time. That comment is not just aimed at badgers, it would also apply to any other species that may actually prey on farmers animals.
Unfortunately, as mentioned before, when it comes to wildlife and the natural world this government are not interested in scientific advice. All they care about is profit. It's scientifically proven that beavers increase the health of rivers, reduce flooding and help fish stocks, yet instead of advocating the release of more they listen to the NFU and handling societies who say (with little evidence) they are a detriment.
It's not a little bit more thought is it, it will soon be 1 billion. Animals tested positive are destroyed, if you understood farming you would realise how much of a devastating effect this has on a farmers herd.
The costs attributed also push up the prices on our exports how do you think this effects competition from other nations where culling dramatically reduces the infection rate?
The costs attributed also push up the prices on our exports how do you think this effects competition from other nations where culling dramatically reduces the infection rate?
Can you tell me what I need to take from that paper? It's from eight years ago and does not cover of other the 2012 trial or last year's trial... Let alone advances in vaccination techniques.
We cull deer because there are a lot of them and we killed their natural predators. That's before we mention that most species of deer aren't native species, being introduced by nobility over the years and that we eat the meat from the cull.
Deer are a great example in fact of the problems we face with damaging "farming". they, along with sheep, help strip the land of any shrubs/bushes and trees, keeping places like the highlands, Dartmoor and many of our so called national parks* relatively barren of life and "unnatural" through the overgrazing of these areas. It's great for the farmers though, they can make a nice profit when they otherwise wouldn't be able to. The same can be said with growse moors.
* There is an international ranking of protected areas. 1, being unspoilt wilderness (National Parks) and 5 being protected zones where people live, our so called national parks are ranked 4, heavily managed and little natural about them.
Farmers are also paid compensation for those destroyed cattle. If the compensation isn't enough then that's another matter to be discussed.
So are you in favour of wiping out a species so you can keep making a profit? Many farmers appear to be so, which is why scientifically backed regulation is so badly needed (in all industries).
Edit: let's remember that the majority of scientific evidence points to the fact culls haven't worked in the past and are unlikely to work in the future, with vaccination being cheaper and more likely to make a difference. Scientists have stood up and said this time and time again yet the government have ignored then, to the point this year where they are not allowing independent oversight of the cull, last year's oversight came up with the "wrong" results, but of course that was because the badgers moved the goal posts...
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The problem with Badgers, TB and Farming are idiots from the town with their narrow minding opinions.
You might get compensation for an animal that tests positive for Tb. But that money makes no difference, that animal was part of your lifes work in many cases, your livelihood is now under thread and endless weeks of stress lays ahead. Until you've experienced it you have no right to comment on it.
You might get compensation for an animal that tests positive for Tb. But that money makes no difference, that animal was part of your lifes work in many cases, your livelihood is now under thread and endless weeks of stress lays ahead. Until you've experienced it you have no right to comment on it.
It's all relevant so you can read it all
Same applies for badgers
So are you telling us you do not like our British countryside then seeing as its been managed for hundreds of years.
Quite often in England not enough but its not the money. Those animals have been bred generation after generation to produce the cattle in current herds.
Love how the antis always shout about eradicating the species. No one wants them "wiped out" but they do want the population numbers managed the same as deer etc.
Edit: let's remember that the majority of scientific evidence points to the fact culls haven't worked in the past and are unlikely to work in the future, with vaccination being cheaper and more likely to make a difference. Scientists have stood up and said this time and time again yet the government have ignored then, to the point this year where they are not allowing independent oversight of the cull, last year's oversight came up with the "wrong" results, but of course that was because the badgers moved the goal posts...
and interference from the furry brigade.
Why are so many countries that use culling to control BTB seeing hugely positive results then?
Look at Ireland and New Zealand as examples.
What utter rubbish.
Do you have any idea how supply & demand works?, the vegan/vegetarian population will decrease the demand for meat by the percentage roughly equal that of their size.
On average the choice to not eat meat or eggs saves at least 200 animals per year (based on the averages across species, mostly fish - prawns & chicken, with a few of larger farm animals.).