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Lets Forget 4k...Which GPU are best for 5K ?

Born_2_Kill_83 said:
Not to spend on a monitor, when you're a little older in life you have to prioritise your finances not blow £800 on a screen that sits on your desk, you'll understand when you get there, for now though you clearly have too much time on your hands, are you sure your pay cheque doesn’t come from JSA perhaps?
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Grow up. I don't even live in a country that has unemployment benefits like your 'JSA'.

Don't justify your own 4K purchase by claiming those who think it is far from ready for gaming "cannot afford it".

The fact is, your own post (quoted prior), states if you had the money you would buy the ROG Swift. So less back paddling, just drop this whole "Loadsa money, look at me with my 4K" attitude.

4K has many many disadvantages along with the advantages. It's not ready for gaming yet.
 
4k already to late tbh.

too high priced will be stepped over very soon anyway.

for things to work they have to be priced well. 4k isnt .
 
Sin_Chase said:
Grow up. I don't even live in a country that has unemployment benefits like your 'JSA'.

Don't justify your own 4K purchase by claiming those who think it is far from ready for gaming "cannot afford it".

The fact is, your own post (quoted prior), states if you had the money you would buy the ROG Swift. So less back paddling, just drop this whole "Loadsa money, look at me with my 4K" attitude.

4K has many many disadvantages along with the advantages. It's not ready for gaming yet.
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Yes 4K does have it's faults but done right it is the best available option for gaming bar none.

After having used a decent 4K monitor for some time now if you turned the argument on it's head and asked me if I would go back to 1080p or 1600p for gaming the answer would be a very big no as these resolutions have too many technical problems and limitations.

Some of the problems associated with 1080p and 1600p compared to 4K would be poor image quality with washed out colours, lack of sharpness, high/low fps causing stuttering, small screen size, having to use more than one monitor for 3 x 1080p, poor GPU utilization (how many posts have we seen on that), poor GPU scaling and the list goes on. I even find it easier to read these forums @4K as the text is sharper even if it is a bit smaller.

The point I am making is 1080p and 1600p also have problems and if people who are used to using 4K were given the choice they would not want to go back to 1080p due to the technical problems and limitations.

Try and see the problem from other peoples point of view as well.:)
 
Depends a bit on what kind of games you play - someone who is happy with 60Hz vsync on would probably be oblivious to the pixel response time issues, etc. and for some games of that nature the resolution can be mind blowing - the extra detail in games like elite dangerous and eve online is incredible and compared to your average typical 60Hz TN the image quality is great to.

Personally though its not a substitute for playing at 120+Hz, has severe disadvantages for fast moving FPS games online (may be less of an issue with some models) and too many games where 1:1 pixel mapping at 450dpi doesn't produce great mouse input and while higher dpi will let you get between UI elements spread out across the screen quickly you will overshoot on trying to do more fiddly stuff.

GPU requirements are actually the least of the issues I've had with it really, aside from hitting VRAM headroom a bit, aslong as you keep AA off and sometimes turn down 1-2 high fillrate demanding settings you can usually run max or close to max settings even with 1 (high end) GPU and get playable fps.
 
Rroff said:
Depends a bit on what kind of games you play - someone who is happy with 60Hz vsync on would probably be oblivious to the pixel response time issues, etc. and for some games of that nature the resolution can be mind blowing - the extra detail in games like elite dangerous and eve online is incredible and compared to your average typical 60Hz TN the image quality is great to.

Personally though its not a substitute for playing at 120+Hz, has severe disadvantages for fast moving FPS games online (may be less of an issue with some models) and too many games where 1:1 pixel mapping at 450dpi doesn't produce great mouse input and while higher dpi will let you get between UI elements spread out across the screen quickly you will overshoot on trying to do more fiddly stuff.

GPU requirements are actually the least of the issues I've had with it really, aside from hitting VRAM headroom a bit, aslong as you keep AA off and sometimes turn down 1-2 high fillrate demanding settings you can usually run max or close to max settings even with 1 (high end) GPU and get playable fps.
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Like everything 4K has strengths and weaknesses.:)

Would you want to go back to using a lower resolution though ?
 
For every day use I'm happier on 2560x1440 @ 27-28", might be a different story if it was a 40+" panel - doesn't help that windows DPI scaling is a bit hit and miss and most of the applications I use most don't work very well with forced scaling.

Its a very useful resolution to have but at the moment 4K is not replacing my other panels for every day use.
 
Rroff said:
For every day use I'm happier on 2560x1440 @ 27-28", might be a different story if it was a 40+" panel - doesn't help that windows DPI scaling and most of the applications I use most don't work very well with forced scaling.

Its a very useful resolution to have but at the moment 4K is not replacing my other panels for every day use.
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For me 32" and 4K works just right even for everyday things.

I made a point of avoiding the 28" panels because of any problems with on screen text size and I also wanted a decent upgrade from my U3011.

I still have my 1600p monitor close at hand if needed for benching as 4K does not seem to support many lower resolutions.
 
The only 4K panels I've used in a desktop PC context so far have been the 28" ones, text is incredibly sharp but also incredibly tiny :S
 
Rroff said:
The only 4K panels I've used in a desktop PC context so far have been the 28" ones, text is incredibly sharp but also incredibly tiny :S
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I don't think I could cope with text on a 28" panel as I am getting on a bit and my eyes are not what they were.:D
 
Rroff said:
Very different panel to the ones I've experience of, wonder how it compares for actual response/latency.
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Going by the specs mine is very slow but in actual use it does not seem too bad, having said that I don't play games like BF4 a lot where it is important.
 
5k is ridiculous especially at a mear 27". I have a 28" 4k monitor and that is already tiny enough of a screen for so many pixels. 4k is definitely having some growing pains as some programs don't scale very well especially with windows display scaling. Problem is you have to scale at least somewhat to not need a magnifying glass to read your screen when the screen is only 28". I can't wait to upgrade to a 4k monitor that's ~30-36" so I can feel some real screen estate that I can actually see with my eyes.
 
jamie1414 said:
5k is ridiculous especially at a mear 27". I have a 28" 4k monitor and that is already tiny enough of a screen for so many pixels. 4k is definitely having some growing pains as some programs don't scale very well especially with windows display scaling. Problem is you have to scale at least somewhat to not need a magnifying glass to read your screen when the screen is only 28". I can't wait to upgrade to a 4k monitor that's ~30-36" so I can feel some real screen estate that I can actually see with my eyes.
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I think that 5K monitor would be great for professionals who need it but not for gaming or normal use.
 
Yeah definitely - one of the nice things you can do with 4K is have it side by side with another lower res panel and have your albums/palettes/controls of source material on the 4K and production software on the other or similar depending on what your working on.
 
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