He was already in, the prison sentence was served.
Why are we letting convicted murders in to the country?
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He was already in, the prison sentence was served.
right but just because thats how iot is now does not mean thats the way it should stay.
Free movement of labor is a fine idea practically though its proved not to be so.
perhaps if someone has a criminal record for violent crime it should be at the other countries discretion.
The Schengen countries have open borders.
If someone has served their sentence and been released then it is under the presumption that the person has been reformed and posses no risk. That is the entire basis of the penal system.
The trouble with that is we're shown time and time again it's an utter load of crud
But that has nothing to do with immigration.
Perhaps policy makers should live in the real world then? The one where just because someone has been to prison doesn't mean they're reformed. Where statistics show they're very likely to go on to commit further crimes. Where governments should be taking steps to protect their people?
I'd draw the line at murderers. He served 7 years. I'm sure he was totally reformed
.ah so would you say all penal systems are u pto scratch in this regard?
or is there any which you would feel are too open to corruption etc to compare to the British one?
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I recall Mike Tyson was denied a visa based on his conviction for rape.
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If a Latvian immigrant or any one at all tbh who'd been convicted of murder, moved next door to me, I'd be on rightmove before you could say multiple homicide.
As to the new owners, I'd be like "Ah, he's a lovely fella him. Just keep your garden tools locked in the shed".
Again, this has nothing to do with immigration.
Someone convicted of murder in Liverpool and released 20 years later is still free to then go to london and murder again.
We're in a thread about letting convicted murderers in to the country. Take it in context...
it does have to do with immigration because while we may not be able to do anything about your Liverpool scenario we can do something about immigrant criminals.
it's like saying a criminal could drive a car through your front wall so there no point locking your front door.
They are already within the EU, there is no letting anyone in,d they are already in.
Or we could tackle the real problem: prevent the crimes taking place and don't release people who might reoffend, and apply this across the whole of the EU. That might be easier said than done, but the fact that the criminal happened to be convicted in a different EU country is meaningless to the scenario because it is exactly the same as someone within the country reoffending.
Whether the person committed the crime in Liverpool or Latvia doesn't change the outcome or the source of the issue. Immigration is completely unrelated.
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That's how it's supposed to work.
Quite a right wing bias on these forums though and you often get a very heated debate around anything that involves immigrants.
There's a young girl involved and that makes the whole thing even more emotionally charged than normal.
As posted earlier the UK still has control over who it ultimately let's in.
We can't do anything about our citizens with inclinations to crime but why should we expose ourselves to additional threats.