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AMD teasing new product, is it Radeon or FirePro?

MOOGLEYS said:
Why is everyone so worried about power consumption ? This is overclockers...

I want a gpu that comes with its own psu....:)
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Higher power consumption usually translates in to higher temps, nosier fans, and poor over clocking headroom.

Look how far the new Nvidia cards clock, efficient cards have their benefits for overclockers
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Didn't Nvidia strip a lot of that stuff out though?
Wasn't it that sort of thing that made the 470/480 run so much hotter and use so much more power than the 5850/5870?
I thought the complaint at the time was that it wasn't needed on a gaming card and just added heat and power draw?
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Not for the top end GPUs. The GF110(in the GTX580 and GTX570 and GTX560TI 448) had less leakage and better power control software. The GK110 also had DP compute fully enabled and so will the GM200/GM210.

However,from Tahiti onwards the AMD top end cards have had greater focus on DP compute,but with much smaller chips than Nvidia,and with Nvidia midrange chips(with greater emphasis on gaming and SP performance),getting close in die size.

So its kind of like the GTX400 and HD5000 series in reverse now,except AMD has traditionally gone for reasonably smaller chips than Nvidia did. However,the chip in the R9 390X appears to be at least 500MM2,but the GM200/GM210 appears to be at least 600MM2!
 
Meh power efficiency isn't even something I particularly care about (I had 3 290X's :p). Performance is king, everything else is a bonus. I am looking forward to testing my 980 when it arrives though. Might be a quick turnaround if these AMD cards are good.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Yea.

As much as I think the new graphic cards from Nvidia is impressive in terms of power-consumption, I'm not very sure if the direction of efficiency over performance they took is the right way to go, especially...you know...graphic cards' performance is already lagging behind the development and progression of monitors resolution.

It's 2014 already and almost into 2015, and we are STILL using 1920 res as the reference benchmark. IMO graphic cards still only able to do 30-40fps in games like Crysis and Metro at only 1920 res is a bit of a joke. All the milking done by the companies over the years have come back to bite us in our rear with the coming of 4K monitors and (more or less affordable).
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In the long term it is the right way to go. It means they can get more each year out of each process node. Look at the amount of top end cards they have released at 28nm compared to AMD. They are focusing on performance per watt rather than brute forcing everything like AMD did with the 290 and 290x (they are great cards don't get me wrong)

Look at what happened with Intel and the Pentium 4. For a few years they tried to fit everything including the kitchen sink into those chips but AMD kicked their butt in both performance and power usage. So they went back to the drawing board and came out with the core 2 series which blew everything at the time away.

NVIDIA and Intel have experience in the tablet and mobile markets which means they are getting better at producing more efficient and better chips.
Unfortunately AMD don't have that experience yet in those markets which leaves them behind and they are reaching the limits of each process node quicker then both Intel and NVIDIA which will hurt them more and more in the long term
 
Disco_P said:
Little birdy tells me that this thing will be able to get very high benchmark scores. And this is a serious little birdy.
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You're such a tease Toaster, stop winding these poor people up!

Your 'serious little birdy' is just Tracks & Roy's tea boy anyway. :p:D
 
MOOGLEYS said:
Why is everyone so worried about power consumption ? This is overclockers...

I want a gpu that comes with its own psu....:)
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many worry about will there psu handle new card and also if you need a new decent psu you normally talking close to a hundred quid on top of your new gpu purchase.

the new nvidia cards can be run on modest psus no problem and that is why they are selling so fast and also the 290s are known for cooking your dinner.

amd have nothing gpu wise. why look at how roy and the boys scream at any advertising. if they had something youd be deaf by now !
 
The 290 was launched with a rubbish cooler which did not help. With the Tri-x and PCS coolers the 290's run at decent temps overclocked.

The 970 & 980 are nice cards they just don't offer much more performance. At higher resolutions they offer little if anything over even the cards they replace like the 780. It's obvious Nvidia have nerfed the cards with a 256bit bus to save costs and I imagine the Ti versions will have a larger bus.

Needing new PSU is not really an issue as most pc gamers have a decent unit. A decent quality 850w happily runs pair of 290's or 780's. The same as Nvidia recommend for a pair of 980's.

I have no interest in power usage as it relates to a few quid a year I would rather the card offered a big performance jump with a decent cooling system capable of keeping the card cool and quite no matter what the usage.

The new Nvidia cards are nice but Im looking forward more to what the new AMD cards offer if there are any and 20nm cards hopefully next year.

Oh yeah and some games that actually make having these cards worthwhile. having bundles of GPU power to run poorly coded console ports is getting boring.
 
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MOOGLEYS said:
The 290 was launched with a rubbish cooler which did not help. With the Tri-x and PCS coolers the 290's run at decent temps overclocked.

The 970 & 980 are nice cards they just don't offer much more performance. At higher resolutions they offer little if anything over even the cards they replace like the 780. It's obvious Nvidia have nerfed the cards with a 256bit bus to save costs and I imagine the Ti versions will have a larger bus.

Needing new PSU is not really an issue as most pc gamers have a decent unit. A decent quality 850w happily runs pair of 290's or 780's. The same as Nvidia recommend for a pair of 980's.

I have no interest in power usage as it relates to a few quid a year I would rather the card offered a big performance jump with a decent cooling system capable of keeping the card cool and quite no matter what the usage.

The new Nvidia cards are nice but Im looking forward more to what the new AMD cards offer if there are any and 20nm cards hopefully next year.

Oh yeah and some games that actually make having these cards worthwhile. having bundles of GPU power to run poorly coded console ports is getting boring.
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I second the last bit you said there. After the PS4 and Xbox one came out i was expecting more games for the PC to come, yet we got the flood of indies but nothing that would need the extra boost of a new shiny gpu that costs more than a ps4/xb1. Yes we got Titanfall which is a nice PVP game but nothing new and can get boring after a while, plus since it was made for the xb1 the PC version is not very optimised ( i cannot see all that next gen super wow graphics on it the textures look a bit meh). We are getting Rise which is repetitive and boring. Or watchdogs which was written poorly so that the console versions look on par or even better?! I am looking forward for TLOTR though and in the PC has a really nice price and hopefully it should look better than the consoles (not always in cases like Capcom :P). But other than that is there a release this year that will make the PC roar against the current gen consoles? All i know is my PC that i recently optimised is sitting there gathering dust while my shiny new PS4 is getting all the love in destiny, which btw is not very next gen either.
 
What a pain/ I fancied ordering some 970's today but I guess I will now have to wait until Thursday :p

This better be awesome new gpu's and not something crap.
 
Jono8 said:
This better be awesome new gpu's and not something crap.
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It had better be an R9 295X or 3XX and not the 'new' AMD Bull****dozer FX9990 6GHz - TDP 300W. :p

Judging by the red & blue pills, I would say it is probably something CPU related.

Could it be an all-new chip? :eek:
 
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Gregster said:
I am sure AMD have an awesome, low powered beast coming. 1 day to go :)
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I think it will be a preview of a faster chip,but since it is the top end AMD GPU(with needs DP performance too for other markets),it will be worse performance/watt than the GM204 based cards,and have a GPU over 500MM2 in area with an AIO water cooler.

OTH,it could be a fully enabled Tonga with HBM,or even the AMD Carrizo APU with Excavator CPU cores and next gen AMD IGP.
 
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1 year on from the Hawaii launch and after AMDRoy's tweets, it has to be a GPU announcement. Strongly suspect it's just a paper launch as we would have seen more bench leaks if hardware was close to release, unless AMD have somehow kept a lid on it.
 
I never thought of that. Generally there have been lots of leaks from AMD about their previous products while this one (if it is GPU) there is none pretty weird especially with Nvidia having a party sales wise.
 
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