most of the population has never voted for the government in power as far as i'm aware. in fact it's incredibly unlikely they ever will.
Second Tory MP defects to UKIP
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most of the population has never voted for the government in power as far as i'm aware. in fact it's incredibly unlikely they ever will.
only 60% bloody voted.
I guess you missed the talk at the recent UKIP conference. Things like tax cuts with no tax on the minimum wage and no inheritance tax.
Also, foreigners are taking jobs with large scale immigration which has caused strain to schooling, healthcare, infrastructure, housing, social issues, crime etc etc. So what, just turn a blind eye and pretend its not happening? And if you do say something get called an idiot or your above quote? Isn't really a good defence of your views now is it? Or maybe its the only defence you have.
that's actually quite an intesting pair of policies.
now is that riasing the tax free alowance to the equiilent of the minimum wage so it applies to everyone or just not taxing people who earn minimum age
you're quite right there, all the people who are pushing for the continuation of open borders are naive beyond belief.
As far as I've read into it just minimum wage, if I've read it right, but thus taking the income tax threshold to £13,500. Read about it earlier here http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/274a1f20-44c0-11e4-bce8-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3Ecna9NQo
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Funded by...?
Kicking out all the immigrants, obviously.
Farage has called for controlled immigration.
17.6 billion aint exactly nothing is it thats about 15% of the nhs yearly budget.
everyone keeps up this stupid argument "oh these savings are all just small bit so its not worth bothering"
so what is thew giant saving we should be making? cause if you cant find one its lots of small things.
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The Bedroom Tax is the commonly used name for it; get over it.
Quite apart from the red-herring nature of your objection I think it's a better idea than (a) paying more money to move them into private accommodation, (b) breaking up communities and the support networks they bring, (c) stopping divorced parents from having bedrooms so that their children can stay for the weekend, (d) charging people because their partners/children serving overseas in our military got killed in action, (e) charging disabled people extra to have a room where a carer can stay the night, etc., etc.
And that would all be true even if the bedroom tax was moving people out of their "under-occupied" homes which, of course, it's almost entirely failed to do for the strikingly simple reason that there aren't smaller houses to put them into. Council housing was deliberately built to provide homes for life, accepting that most households will fluctuate in size over the years, and so they never built much in the way of housing for singles and couples.
The bedroom tax is particularly repellent given that the major reason for the problem in the first place is that the last Tory government destroyed the provision of council housing (although, to be fair, Blair's government hardly did anything to solve the problem).
Ukip conference was just farage showboating that Tory defector. I'm sure they will enjoy their 3 MPs in May, they are a long long way off Tory and labour in terms of numbers and finances. They can't even field in every seat, a fringe party on par with the greens and maybe fibdems but that's it at best
0.7% of current gdp
Of course it's the commonly used name for it - it's a misleadingly emotive term which makes it sound worse than it is and makes it easier to stir up emotions on the subject. A tax on bedrooms? Awful!
I think we can all agree that destroying the provision of council housing in the 80's was a very bad idea, but you can't honestly be suggesting now that because 30 years ago the Tories screwed something up they cannot take any steps to try and deal with the resulting issues?
my bad misread gni as gdp
Are you saying ,most of the population voted Tory at the last GE ?
By population we mean electorate. Just added this for clarity.
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Are you saying ,most of the population voted Tory at the last GE ?
can you tell me any government that most of the population voted for?