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[Rusty0611]

Because unacceptable behaviour that encourages others join in-like you have, if it's made aware, it might help discourage others in stead of increasing the practice and this place would get along better.

Well you are whinging - that is just a statement of fact. I'm not joining in anything merely saying what I am seeing.

The forum rules is that you should RTM anything you think needs to be brought to the moderators attention rather than bickering on about it in the thread. I'd suggest you do that but let me guess you've now got something else you want to say to me in response? Whatever it is I'm not interested - keep the thread on topic or at the very least about graphics cards.

What card are you using?
I thought you had a 290?
Titan was out in February 2013, 290 was out in November 2013. So they're 9 month apart, so it can't be a 290. Plus you have a 3rd party cooled 290 which wasn't out at launch so it was probably more like December, which is 10 months.
So what card are you running now Humbug?

How it normally works is there is under/over exaggeration in favour of ones favourite GPU brand . This place is amusing sometimes.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

I fail to see how buying a 290 may actually result in getting a 290X if your willing to run the risk of unlocking it; is a bad thing.

I don't get your reasoning, i think its rather a good thing, please explain.

You were talking about locking things off, which is what was done via a BIOS.
If they can be sold for 290 prices it shows the mark-up for locking off (or not including) a few shaders.
Which was bad when they did it with the 780?

 

[humbug]

You were talking about locking things off, which is what was done via a BIOS.
If they can be sold for 290 prices it shows the mark-up for locking off (or not including) a few shaders.
Which was bad when they did it with the 780?

Oh i see, you missed the point completely.

Nvidia didn't just hack a few shaders off the GK110 to make the 780, they also crippled its compute performance.
They would put it back for you if you paid them, what was it now? £350? to put it back, or rather not cripple it in the first place.

Before you ask "don't AMD do the same?". No, they don't.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Oh i see, you missed the point completely.

Nvidia didn't just hack a few shaders off the GK110 to make the 780, they also crippled it compute performance.
They would put it back for you if you paid them, what was it now? £350? to put it back, or rather not cripple it in the first place.

Before you ask "don't AMD do the same?". No, they don't.

Maybe not compute performance, but they still crippled it unless you pay them the extra to get the full number of shaders.
It's only different because it doesn't fit your argument.

 

[tommybhoy]

Well you are whinging - that is just a statement of fact. I'm not joining in anything merely saying what I am seeing.

The forum rules is that you should RTM anything you think needs to be brought to the moderators attention rather than bickering on about it in the thread. I'd suggest you do that but let me guess you've now got something else you want to say to me in response? Whatever it is I'm not interested - keep the thread on topic or at the very least about graphics cards.

Your statement of fact is, but it comes across as derogatory on my part due to the many times you aim it at myself when you disagree to any of my opinions in multiple topics.

How it normally works is there is under/over exaggeration in favour of ones favourite GPU brand .

Agreed.

 

[Orangey]

I think they gimped the compute performance because it was eating into Quadro sales. Never seen any numbers so just a theory.

 

[Rusty0611]

I should try unlocking mine... never bothered. Don't think there's any chance but you never know .

Your statement of fact is, but it comes across as derogatory on my part due to the many times you aim it at myself when you disagree to any of my opinions in multiple topics.

>

Whatever it is I'm not interested - keep the thread on topic or at the very least about graphics cards.

 

[humbug]

Maybe not compute performance, but they still crippled it unless you pay them the extra to get the full number of shaders.
It's only different because it doesn't fit your argument.

your right about one thing, Of course it does not fit my argument, your making a different argument.

I mean, should i expect a 290X if i buy a 270? no, of course not. you always have and always will get bigger GPU's if you spend more, whats different about this is not just a bigger GPU for more money, its an artificiality crippled GPU unless you pay them an extortionate amount of money not to.

But i can see how thats acceptable in Nvidia's Münchhausen world of marketing. Take it away from them, they will thank you when you give it back.

I tell you what, i will kick off at AMD if they remove the compute performance from my card, deal?

 

[win8.1]

Do some people actually think a £500 780 card was a bargain? I suppose after the ridiculous price of Titan some might have thought so but honestly single gpu prices should never have got that high.

 

[humbug]

Do some people actually think a £500 780 card was a bargain? I suppose after the ridiculous price of Titan some might have thought so but honestly single gpu prices should never have got that high.

More Münchhausen world of marketing, sorry, i could not resist.

 

[Rusty0611]

Do some people actually think a £500 780 card was a bargain? I suppose after the ridiculous price of Titan some might have thought so but honestly single gpu prices should never have got that high.

The price is what the market is willing to pay. What may be 'expensive' to somebody is not a large sum of money to other people. You have to bear that in mind when you're factoring in whether somebody considers a purchase a good deal or good value for money. Money is all relative after all. I'm not rich but I live well enough and have worked hard since I left uni and got a couple of decent breaks along the way.

Obviously if I was, say, working in a call centre or something for a bit over minimum wage then £500 for a GPU would probably not be considered a bargain.

 

[mmj_uk]

People are happy to pay because gregarious Nvidia supporters are so blind/ignorant to the Nvidia milking going on.

At the end of the day people are willing to pay extra for the reputable/quality brands with all manner of consumer products, graphics cards and processors are no different.

Once upon a time when Athlon's were king AMD sold FX chips for £800 and they were as popular as Intel EE's and NVidia's Titan's are today, AMD recently tried to sell FX9590 for £800 and quickly realised that they are just not that good anymore. Granted, AMD are still a lot more competitive in the GPU market but their wider package (beyond simply selling you hardware) is just not good enough to be charging premiums like NVidia can.

 

[Boomstick777]

Noctua colours? Great fans but prob the worst compliment to NV colour scheme I can think of.

edit: real news ignored again in favour of the old Titan argument :/

Lol I tried to steer it back on topic

 

[tommybhoy]

So AMD/ATI did release any cards that you could unlock to higher models in some way?
AMD haven't ever released cards where a simple BIOS flash would turn it into, say a 290X?
But you had to pay more for an actual 290X?

6950-£200
6950-£187

£387 6950>70 CrossFire that kicked the utter **** out of the £480 580 at time of purchase.

£400 7950 CrossFire@1200MHz(and 7 AAA games) that kicked the utter **** out of Titan

Sold them and £20 got me a £320 290>290X=Titan.

 

[Boomstick777]

GTX 980 May Lose The Performance Crown To AMD’s R9 380X in February 2015

Salt with this one as per usual.

This leak comes from overclockers.ru and it pertains to AMD’s next generation of graphics cards. Yesterday AMD revealed some very interesting information to journalists in Japan. During AMD’s annual event in the country this year, company officials divulged a number of exciting plans to 4gamer.net journalists in a round table discussion....

GTX 980 and GTX 970 Will Face Tough Competition in Early 2015

According to the same folks at overclockers.ru AMD has three new graphics cards in the works. The R9 290X successor based on the Bermuda GPU , The R9 380X based on Fiji and the R9 370X based on Treasure Island. And the R9 380X should be released by Feubuary next year if everything goes according to plan.

The new series of graphics cards is supposed to be the first ever to feature TSMC’s new 20nm manufacturing technology as well as 3D stacked HBM memory.

Read more: http://wccftech.com/gtx-980-lose-performance-crown-amds-r9-380x-febuary-2015/#ixzz3EeqV2XlI

 

[Final8y]

Do some people actually think a £500 780 card was a bargain? I suppose after the ridiculous price of Titan some might have thought so but honestly single gpu prices should never have got that high.

Great marketing and perception, it works for Apple and it works for NV.

 

[win8.1]

More Münchhausen world of marketing, sorry, i could not resist.

 

[Ayahuasca]

I'd be disappointed if they couldn't beat it in 5-6 months.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

your right about one thing, Of course it does not fit my argument, your making a different argument.

I mean, should i expect a 290X if i buy a 270? no, of course not. you always have and always will get bigger GPU's if you spend more, whats different about this is not just a bigger GPU for more money, its an artificiality crippled GPU unless you pay them an extortionate amount of money not to.

But i can see how thats acceptable in Nvidia's Münchhausen world of marketing. Take it away from them, they will thank you when you give it back.

I tell you what, i will kick off at AMD if they remove the compute performance from my card, deal?

Right, so you're saying it only matters if it's compute performance that affected?
Crippling a card in another way is fine, but compute performance (which is used massively in gaming is it?) is when it becomes a problem? Seems a really narrow argument with parameters defined so tightly that it can only be applied to this one scenario.

Since the Titan is the only one with the added compute performance doesn't it seem more like it's something added to that card rather than removed from all the others?

 

[Boomstick777]

I hope AMD launch a GTX 980 for £230 and GTX 980TI for £300 in the next 6 months.

a race to rock bottom prices, thats what i want to see.

You will be glad to see this then > http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18626864