Tax disc who is binning them?

Lumeycom · 1 Oct 2014 at 17:31

just went to take mine out the van and its not there anywhere, god knows where its gone but one less job I suppose

Outcast · 1 Oct 2014 at 18:30

UltimateBadger · 1 Oct 2014 at 19:17

Removed from two vehicles. Tar removed the remnants. Consigned to history.

ElliorR · 1 Oct 2014 at 19:17

Obviously I trust the dealer to have taxed the bike, as the price I paid is OTR, but as I'm somewhat paranoid, I was hoping to be able to check on the gov website when I pick it up. Unfortunately it's still down so if it's not working tomorrow, I'll be extra paranoid ridding around

snapdragon69 · 1 Oct 2014 at 19:30

Burnsy2023 said:
I don't see how this is possible. How would a Petrol Station have access to MIB data?

The companies that run the camera sell the info. The same as the councils sell SPECS speed camera data to the TMC operators for traffic data.

Jumper118 · 1 Oct 2014 at 19:44

i've got every single one my car has had since it was new in 2006 and they are all still in the holder

ShiWarrior · 1 Oct 2014 at 19:55

I just bought a car today, so I didn't get a disc to use

ShiWarrior · 1 Oct 2014 at 19:56

ElliorR said:
Obviously I trust the dealer to have taxed the bike, as the price I paid is OTR, but as I'm somewhat paranoid, I was hoping to be able to check on the gov website when I pick it up. Unfortunately it's still down so if it's not working tomorrow, I'll be extra paranoid ridding around

same boat, bought a car today, seen the receipt for the tax by the dealer, but I want to be sure it is actually taxed myself!!

Burnsy2023 · 1 Oct 2014 at 19:58

snapdragon69 said:
The companies that run the camera sell the info. The same as the councils sell SPECS speed camera data to the TMC operators for traffic data.

But it'd be out of date pretty much as soon as they sell the data. Anyway, what would be the point?

Rilot · 1 Oct 2014 at 20:51

ElliorR said:
Obviously I trust the dealer to have taxed the bike, as the price I paid is OTR, but as I'm somewhat paranoid, I was hoping to be able to check on the gov website when I pick it up. Unfortunately it's still down so if it's not working tomorrow, I'll be extra paranoid ridding around

You raise an interesting point. What happens to OTR prices now? I'm guessing that they will all say (Exc tax). I bet dealers still charge the same price though and pocket the difference as extra margin.
Have car OTR prices dropped overnight? I'm betting that they haven't.

Skeeter · 1 Oct 2014 at 21:21

snapdragon69 said:
The companies that run the camera sell the info. The same as the councils sell SPECS speed camera data to the TMC operators for traffic data.

So your saying the police are buying camera footage from petrol stations?

Burned_Alive · 1 Oct 2014 at 21:37

I thought petrol station ANPR was just linked back to a police/dvla run central database with real time information. It's in their best interest to identify crooked cars up front, so they can't fuel and drive off, etc

johnny6 · 1 Oct 2014 at 21:38

Rilot said:
You raise an interesting point. What happens to OTR prices now? I'm guessing that they will all say (Exc tax). I bet dealers still charge the same price though and pocket the difference as extra margin.
Have car OTR prices dropped overnight? I'm betting that they haven't.

Surely dealers will still be taxing the vehicles they sell so why would the price change?

[TW]Fox · 1 Oct 2014 at 21:43

Rilot said:
You raise an interesting point. What happens to OTR prices now? I'm guessing that they will all say (Exc tax). I bet dealers still charge the same price though and pocket the difference as extra margin.
Have car OTR prices dropped overnight? I'm betting that they haven't.

What are you on about? The OTR price will continue to include Road Fund License. Why wouldn't it?

ci_newman · 1 Oct 2014 at 21:48

[TW]Fox;26989218 said:
What are you on about? The OTR price will continue to include Road Fund License. Why wouldn't it?

For the same reason that you can't include the tax when selling privately?

johnny6 · 1 Oct 2014 at 21:52

Dealers will still be taxing vehicles you just won't get a physical paper disc

[TW]Fox · 1 Oct 2014 at 21:53

ci_newman said:
For the same reason that you can't include the tax when selling privately?

Since when are brand new cars sold privately?

The dealer taxes the new car on your behalf as part of the purchasing process when buying a new car. You are not buying a pre-taxed vehicle from them. It's taxed for you as part of its new registration process.

Rilot · 1 Oct 2014 at 22:03

There we go then. I didn't make the link between the registration process and the first year license.

Third Opinion · 1 Oct 2014 at 23:24

Can't understand why it has all become such a mess.

All that changed today is you don't get a paper disc but some people seem to be in meltdown over it.

An elderly neighbour stopped me an voiced his displeasure over the removal of my disc and how it was encouraging others to do the same. He is convinced the car park will be full of untaxed abandoned cars next week. He wants proof car tax is being paid.

I sarcastically replied we should return to the disc system and whilst we are at it issue paper discs for us to wear round our necks to prove we have paid income tax, council tax and VAT for the neighbours benefit.

Think I have made an enemy. lol

Skeeter · 2 Oct 2014 at 00:20

Aww

I'm yet to meet a random ranting wierdo. I was hoping it would be an instantaneous thing. You know, like I pull the tax disk out and suddenly 27 elderly nutjobs descend on me to complain about how they are going to report me. But nothing

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